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They're quite different product lines, serving different markets. The heatsink you'd need to cool something like the 9800X3D would be the size of the Mac mini
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They're quite different product lines, serving different markets. The heatsink you'd need to cool something like the 9800X3D would be the size of the Mac mini itself. The Intel Core Ultra 9 285K costs roughly the same as the entire M4 mini, has twice as many cores (4x as many threads), and its advertised base power is twice the M4's maximum.
There's nothing wrong with comparing them, but they don't seem to be in the same market.
- menaerus 2y agoWhat's the market for Mac minis if not desktop nor laptop?
- wmf 2y agoDesktop spans a wide range. Mac minis should be compared against NUCs or cheap PCs, not high-end PCs.
- menaerus 2y agoM4 is Apple's top-of-the-line CPU design atm and this very same CPU is used across all their products and not only Mac Mini's. It's used in MacBook Pro. Is M4 TDP different in MacBook Pro than what it is in Mac Mini?
- attentive 2y agoCost matters. Let's not forget about electricity/cooling cost as well. That said, I wonder what would desktop cost that is better or equal in https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.0 https://browserbench.org/Speedometer3.0 on m4 mini. Does it even exist?
- ywvcbk 2y agoWas there a single laptop chip included in the benchmark? They are comparing a 5w CPU with 80-200w ones.. which is entirely pointless.
- menaerus 2y agoI don't think it is entirely pointless but what I think it is pointless is to presumably leave so much performance on the table for a device that does not even run on a battery.
- pxmpxm 2y agoThere were no laptops being compared... Performance per watt is a thing that matters for systems where you don't have a lot of watts. Desktops are not that.