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Let’s just ignore the quarterly employee feedback, historical performance records of employees before, during, and after COVID-19 lockdowns, business performanc

by xyst 2y ago

Let’s just ignore the quarterly employee feedback, historical performance records of employees before, during, and after COVID-19 lockdowns, business performance before, during , after COVID-19 lockdowns; and rates of attrition in across organizations and teams… There is plenty of data to support why forced RTO makes no sense.

thrw42A8N 2y ago
How are you so sure this data is favorable to remote work?
- KerrAvon 2y ago
  because that's what the data says
  - thrw42A8N 2y ago
    Can you show me, please?
    - no_wizard 2y ago
      There's been numerous articles about it: https://www.vox.com/recode/23129752/work-from-home-productivity https://www.vox.com/recode/23129752/work-from-home-productiv... https://www.nber.org/papers/w30267 https://www.nber.org/papers/w30267 https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/4443825-telework-produces-a-22-percent-increase-in-employees-productive-work-time/ https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/4443825-telework-prod... https://hubstaff.com/blog/remote-work-deeper-focus-fewer-interruptions-study/ https://hubstaff.com/blog/remote-work-deeper-focus-fewer-int... https://atlassianblog.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/lessonslearned.pdf https://atlassianblog.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/0... https://www.opm.gov/telework/documents-for-telework/2023-report-to-congress.pdf https://www.opm.gov/telework/documents-for-telework/2023-rep...
      - thrw42A8N 2y ago
        I thought you were talking about Amazon data. I don't think this is something that can be said generally - I have been in companies that worked much better in person, and in companies that wouldn't work without remote. I have no idea which one is Amazon. Ultimately though, I think this is a cultural choice - the companies that worked well in person specifically hired only people who wanted to work in that way. Some changed their mind during the pandemic, and they were asked to move on. I don't think they were wrong. I was one of these who went away, and I joined a remote first global corporate with people from all over the world. I had a blast working there and nothing like it would be possible otherwise. So I don't think Amazon is wrong in choosing their own way - even if we don't like it. It's style; it's like if we were criticizing their brand colors.
        no_wizard 2y ago
        I wasn't, but thats largely because they haven't produced any, by their own admission, and they aren't currently from what anyone - even those inside the company - gathering any in a rigorous manner.
not_a_bot_4sho 2y ago
> There is plenty of data to support why forced RTO makes no sense. It makes a lot of sense for property owners to enforce policies to maintain the value of their real estate. I don't like it, but it makes sense.

by xyst 2y ago

thrw42A8N 2y ago

How are you so sure this data is favorable to remote work?

KerrAvon 2y ago
because that's what the data says
- thrw42A8N 2y ago
  Can you show me, please?
  - no_wizard 2y ago
    There's been numerous articles about it: https://www.vox.com/recode/23129752/work-from-home-productivity https://www.vox.com/recode/23129752/work-from-home-productiv... https://www.nber.org/papers/w30267 https://www.nber.org/papers/w30267 https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/4443825-telework-produces-a-22-percent-increase-in-employees-productive-work-time/ https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/4443825-telework-prod... https://hubstaff.com/blog/remote-work-deeper-focus-fewer-interruptions-study/ https://hubstaff.com/blog/remote-work-deeper-focus-fewer-int... https://atlassianblog.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/lessonslearned.pdf https://atlassianblog.wpengine.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/0... https://www.opm.gov/telework/documents-for-telework/2023-report-to-congress.pdf https://www.opm.gov/telework/documents-for-telework/2023-rep...
    - thrw42A8N 2y ago
      I thought you were talking about Amazon data. I don't think this is something that can be said generally - I have been in companies that worked much better in person, and in companies that wouldn't work without remote. I have no idea which one is Amazon. Ultimately though, I think this is a cultural choice - the companies that worked well in person specifically hired only people who wanted to work in that way. Some changed their mind during the pandemic, and they were asked to move on. I don't think they were wrong. I was one of these who went away, and I joined a remote first global corporate with people from all over the world. I had a blast working there and nothing like it would be possible otherwise. So I don't think Amazon is wrong in choosing their own way - even if we don't like it. It's style; it's like if we were criticizing their brand colors.
      - no_wizard 2y ago
        I wasn't, but thats largely because they haven't produced any, by their own admission, and they aren't currently from what anyone - even those inside the company - gathering any in a rigorous manner.

not_a_bot_4sho 2y ago

> There is plenty of data to support why forced RTO makes no sense. It makes a lot of sense for property owners to enforce policies to maintain the value of their real estate. I don't like it, but it makes sense.