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>Magit alone makes VS Code look like a child's finger painting. Magit is indeed a great git client, but I don't see what that has to do with emacs having bad d

>Magit alone makes VS Code look like a child's finger painting. Magit is indeed a great git client, but I don't see what that has to do with emacs having bad defaults and an out of box experience that could be charitably described as antique.

llm_trw 2y ago
Antique means stable. When you've been using the same thing for 20 years changing defaults to be trendy isn't a plus. You'll understand in 20 years when you're on your 4th IDE which will change the world^tm.
- stackghost 2y ago
  >Antique means stable. And it also means obsolete. >You'll understand in 20 years when you're on your 4th IDE which will change the world^tm. How condescending. But no, I probably won't mind changing editors every few years because I am capable of learning new things and do not require a safe space to keep me insulated from the outside world.
  - llm_trw 2y ago
    An editor is the least interesting thing to learn in computer engineering. If you enjoy wasting your time may I suggest something like stamp collecting that doesn't create billions of dollars of lost productivity for the rest of us?
    - stackghost 2y ago
      Misrepresenting my comments as you have done shows how weak your position is. Don't bother replying further as I will not read it.
      - llm_trw 2y ago
        You should write them in a superior text editor like Emacs so they are clearer.
  - cruffle_duffle 2y ago
    Plus I’m changing editors every 8 or 4 years because the “new one” is better in some regard. VSCode is a very good editor. Sublime was a good editor too, but VSCode was better enough to make me switch. Whatever comes after VSCode will be that much better! So there is nothing wrong at all with switching to a new editor… it just means things are getting even better!!!
aulin 2y ago
Bad defaults for who? Emacs userbase is quite heterogeneous, not everyone is a swdev, not everyone is young. All it takes to have great defaults is maybe ten instructions in init.el.

llm_trw 2y ago

Antique means stable. When you've been using the same thing for 20 years changing defaults to be trendy isn't a plus. You'll understand in 20 years when you're on your 4th IDE which will change the world^tm.

stackghost 2y ago
>Antique means stable. And it also means obsolete. >You'll understand in 20 years when you're on your 4th IDE which will change the world^tm. How condescending. But no, I probably won't mind changing editors every few years because I am capable of learning new things and do not require a safe space to keep me insulated from the outside world.
- llm_trw 2y ago
  An editor is the least interesting thing to learn in computer engineering. If you enjoy wasting your time may I suggest something like stamp collecting that doesn't create billions of dollars of lost productivity for the rest of us?
  - stackghost 2y ago
    Misrepresenting my comments as you have done shows how weak your position is. Don't bother replying further as I will not read it.
    - llm_trw 2y ago
      You should write them in a superior text editor like Emacs so they are clearer.
- cruffle_duffle 2y ago
  Plus I’m changing editors every 8 or 4 years because the “new one” is better in some regard. VSCode is a very good editor. Sublime was a good editor too, but VSCode was better enough to make me switch. Whatever comes after VSCode will be that much better! So there is nothing wrong at all with switching to a new editor… it just means things are getting even better!!!

aulin 2y ago

Bad defaults for who? Emacs userbase is quite heterogeneous, not everyone is a swdev, not everyone is young. All it takes to have great defaults is maybe ten instructions in init.el.