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But this is people that use their autocomplete, F8 step through debugging and the like. I was like that about 20 years ago, working with Eclipse and later NetB
by xtracto 2y ago
But this is people that use their autocomplete, F8 step through debugging and the like.
I was like that about 20 years ago, working with Eclipse and later NetBeans for Java and Visual Studio for C# .net v1 (anyone remembers whole tomato extensions?).
I needed the IDE , the autocomplete, the debugger and all that. Nowadays, I do mostly Vim and Vscode for more complex projects. I don't know why, but I "grew out" of needing an IDE.
- nomel 2y agoI suspect it’s also about the type of work you do, if you don’t need a debugger.
- rad_gruchalski 2y agoAre you using Vim and VSCode in plain text for everything? Or do you still like the language server, syntax highlighting and the like?
- xtracto 2y agoLanguage server and plenty of plug-ins. I haven't used a debugger proper in more than 10 years I think... only ollydbg for cracking fun.
- rad_gruchalski 2y agoSo you do like an IDE...
- trey-jones 2y agoThe weird thing about comments like these is that of course you can do all of this stuff with Emacs, you just have to figure out how.
- xtracto 2y agoHaha I'm a vi guy never used emacs. Not meaning to start a war.
- trey-jones 2y agoNo worries, I think maybe I replied to the wrong comment - I would have expected to reply to someone who can't see how an Emacs (or vi) user could be as productive as an IDE user.
- bitwize 2y agoShudder to think that in 20 years (or less!) there will be a generation of programmers who suckled at the teat of ChatGPT and firmly believe that software is impossible to write without LLM help.
- toprerules 2y agoI'm already seeing this as part of my mentoring work. It's very problematic.