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I'm not finding what you're saying to be simple common sense. I'm sorry, but I think your takes might not age well. Maybe you are mistaken.

wakawaka28 2y ago
I could be mistaken but to think that Russia would broadcast that they have something on Trump, that he owes them, defies common sense. If they really did then it would be entirely to their advantage to keep that between him and them. It is far more likely coming from the imagination of a propagandist. You might think I'm wrong but I've been right ever since I gave up on the mainstream media. You should try looking at everything as if you've been lied to for 8 years, because you have been.
- Applejinx 2y ago
  https://tass.com/politics/1870713 https://tass.com/politics/1870713
  - wakawaka28 2y ago
    What "forces" do you think they are talking about? Every candidate has donors and allies who they may owe favors to. They aren't saying that he owes Russia anything. In fact I heard a different report suggesting that they expect him to be JFK'd if he tries to do everything he said he would do. So that one is sort of propaganda, basically casting doubt on our democracy and challenging confidence in Trump. But it's not the same type of propaganda I thought we were talking about.
    - Applejinx 2y ago
      Guess I'm keeping you busy, at any rate! :D
      - romwell 2y ago
        Thanks for doing that. Wasting these people's time is a small gain; having others in the community see the lies debunked is valuable. Especially when they are openly, blatantly, clearly lying. We've had evidence since 2016, and we keep getting more of it. We just don't act on it. [0] https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/10/505072304/cia-concludes-russian-interference-aimed-to-elect-trump https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/10/505072304... [1] https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/dl https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/dl [2] https://www.rferl.org/a/election-russia-influence-internet-rt-biden/33105938.html https://www.rferl.org/a/election-russia-influence-internet-r... [3] https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-disrupts-covert-russian-government-sponsored-foreign-malign-influence https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-disrupts-c... [4] https://newrepublic.com/post/188284/vladimir-putin-donald-trump-election-obligations https://newrepublic.com/post/188284/vladimir-putin-donald-tr... [5] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/30/trump-russia-2016-election-helped-elect-president https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/30/trump-russia... [5a] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39931012 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39931012 [6] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/16/trump-cabinet-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-reactions https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/16/trump-cabine...

wakawaka28 2y ago

I could be mistaken but to think that Russia would broadcast that they have something on Trump, that he owes them, defies common sense. If they really did then it would be entirely to their advantage to keep that between him and them. It is far more likely coming from the imagination of a propagandist. You might think I'm wrong but I've been right ever since I gave up on the mainstream media. You should try looking at everything as if you've been lied to for 8 years, because you have been.

Applejinx 2y ago
https://tass.com/politics/1870713 https://tass.com/politics/1870713
- wakawaka28 2y ago
  What "forces" do you think they are talking about? Every candidate has donors and allies who they may owe favors to. They aren't saying that he owes Russia anything. In fact I heard a different report suggesting that they expect him to be JFK'd if he tries to do everything he said he would do. So that one is sort of propaganda, basically casting doubt on our democracy and challenging confidence in Trump. But it's not the same type of propaganda I thought we were talking about.
  - Applejinx 2y ago
    Guess I'm keeping you busy, at any rate! :D
    - romwell 2y ago
      Thanks for doing that. Wasting these people's time is a small gain; having others in the community see the lies debunked is valuable. Especially when they are openly, blatantly, clearly lying. We've had evidence since 2016, and we keep getting more of it. We just don't act on it. [0] https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/10/505072304/cia-concludes-russian-interference-aimed-to-elect-trump https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/10/505072304... [1] https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/dl https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/dl [2] https://www.rferl.org/a/election-russia-influence-internet-rt-biden/33105938.html https://www.rferl.org/a/election-russia-influence-internet-r... [3] https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-disrupts-covert-russian-government-sponsored-foreign-malign-influence https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-disrupts-c... [4] https://newrepublic.com/post/188284/vladimir-putin-donald-trump-election-obligations https://newrepublic.com/post/188284/vladimir-putin-donald-tr... [5] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/30/trump-russia-2016-election-helped-elect-president https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/30/trump-russia... [5a] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39931012 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39931012 [6] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/16/trump-cabinet-tulsi-gabbard-democratic-reactions https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/16/trump-cabine...