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>Flying in the US is uniformly terrible No, it isn't. It's uniformly terrible when you choose the cheapest option which coincidentally is the driving force beh

by pb7 2y ago

>Flying in the US is uniformly terrible No, it isn't. It's uniformly terrible when you choose the cheapest option which coincidentally is the driving force behind air travel reducing extra comforts.

twelve40 2y ago
It very much is, compared to other countries. In Europe and other places they might feed you two full meals in economy the time it takes SFO to NY. Here, you get puke-inducing "pretzels" and half a plastic cup of water. In that regard, Spirit was refreshingly honest because they didn't even pretend to care.
- pb7 2y ago
  There is no intra-Europe flight as long as SF is to NY. There is no narrow body flight that serves two full meals in economy in Europe. There are practically no wide-body intra-Europe flights, certainly none that serve any meals. Most flights in Europe are super short and nearly all of them are on narrow body planes that don't have the capacity to serve meals for everyone.
  - Yeul 2y ago
    Why would anyone want an in-flight meal? Seems to me that's the first thing to cut costs. The human body can survive not eating for 10 hours.
    - twelve40 2y ago
      speaking for myself, i fly every other week, sometimes i don't care for food, other times i could be hungover or hungry flying into or out of a full workday and meetings. Realizing that a nice hot meal or two are sometimes pretty amazing when flying e.g. Turkish, I personally would love the ex-Virgin America approach (RIP another legend) where I could punch a button on the screen and they would bring a meal on demand if/when i need it, without having to stay awake waiting for the stupid cart or bothering other people too much. But, here we have United that offers nothing.
  - lbreakjai 2y ago
    > There is no intra-Europe flight as long as SF is to N [...] There are practically no wide-body intra-Europe flights, certainly none that serve any meals That depends on how you define "Europe". Europe-the-continent, Athens to Reykjavik is roughly the same distance as NY to SF. If you define Europe as "Any territory belonging to a European country", then the longest domestic flight is between Paris and Saint-Denis, Réunion. It's about 9000 Km, which is twice the distance between NY and SF. Tenerife is quite a popular destination, and is also relatively far from the mainland.

by pb7 2y ago

>Flying in the US is uniformly terrible No, it isn't. It's uniformly terrible when you choose the cheapest option which coincidentally is the driving force behind air travel reducing extra comforts.

twelve40 2y ago

It very much is, compared to other countries. In Europe and other places they might feed you two full meals in economy the time it takes SFO to NY. Here, you get puke-inducing "pretzels" and half a plastic cup of water. In that regard, Spirit was refreshingly honest because they didn't even pretend to care.

pb7 2y ago
There is no intra-Europe flight as long as SF is to NY. There is no narrow body flight that serves two full meals in economy in Europe. There are practically no wide-body intra-Europe flights, certainly none that serve any meals. Most flights in Europe are super short and nearly all of them are on narrow body planes that don't have the capacity to serve meals for everyone.
- Yeul 2y ago
  Why would anyone want an in-flight meal? Seems to me that's the first thing to cut costs. The human body can survive not eating for 10 hours.
  - twelve40 2y ago
    speaking for myself, i fly every other week, sometimes i don't care for food, other times i could be hungover or hungry flying into or out of a full workday and meetings. Realizing that a nice hot meal or two are sometimes pretty amazing when flying e.g. Turkish, I personally would love the ex-Virgin America approach (RIP another legend) where I could punch a button on the screen and they would bring a meal on demand if/when i need it, without having to stay awake waiting for the stupid cart or bothering other people too much. But, here we have United that offers nothing.
- lbreakjai 2y ago
  > There is no intra-Europe flight as long as SF is to N [...] There are practically no wide-body intra-Europe flights, certainly none that serve any meals That depends on how you define "Europe". Europe-the-continent, Athens to Reykjavik is roughly the same distance as NY to SF. If you define Europe as "Any territory belonging to a European country", then the longest domestic flight is between Paris and Saint-Denis, Réunion. It's about 9000 Km, which is twice the distance between NY and SF. Tenerife is quite a popular destination, and is also relatively far from the mainland.