You should listen to interviews with special operations folks. Navy Seals, Green Berets, Delta Force, etc. There is a strong culture of do what's needed to acc

You should listen to interviews with special operations folks. Navy Seals, Green Berets, Delta Force, etc. There is a strong culture of do what's needed to accomplish the mission. Even a "if you're not cheating, you're not trying" to many challenges. HN has a curiously strong hatred of libertarians (although also professing to dislike authoritarians?) so it's not surprising the comment got downvoted though.