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Every time this story comes up I ask. How did they light fire, and what vessels did they use to boil water? I ask this after years of adventure is the Yukon w

by grecy 2y ago

Every time this story comes up I ask. How did they light fire, and what vessels did they use to boil water? I ask this after years of adventure is the Yukon wilderness, where we play the game “if the canoe flipped and we lost everything, could we survive?”. Often the answer is “not unless we luckily rescue our rifles or lighters or gps beacon. Maybe we could walk out in a month. Maybe.

Tor3 2y ago
I'm not sure what the answer is, but for the record whenever I spent a few weeks in the mountains as a younger person, I never brought rifles, lighters, or gps beacons (or any other electronics). I did have matches though, in a waterproof bag. But I also had steel and flint. Knife. And a fishing rod. In fact the most useful modern society thing I brought would be soap.. if you have it you don't think much about it, if you don't then you realize how very useful it is.
- grecy 2y ago
  I’m impressed! What did you boil water in? Just eat with your fingers?
  - Tor3 2y ago
    I brought a pot.. metal, made for this.. I thought that was a given. It would easily last forty-fifty years (re the original article). Not that I would need the pot all the time, fish I would grill in various ways, e.g. on a stick on a fire, or just leaving them on a flat rock close to the fire. The pot was for soup of some kind which I didn't eat very often. As I don't drink coffee when I'm on a mountain hike I wouldn't bring a coffee pot. A knife is a must, if I didn't already mention that. The main point is that I wouldn't need a rifle, a lighter, or a GPS. I wouldn't even have thought of it. Not that there was much GPS around when I was a teenager. A paper map though, that's useful sometimes.
    - grecy 2y ago
      GPS we carry to save our lives. Even 10 days out in the Yukon without gear in late September would be brutal. Like I said, we often gave ourselves 50/50 of surviving - either build some kind of cabin and stay the winter (need rifle and axe minimum) or walk out.
aziaziazi 2y ago
> Boil water They had a couple iron pots that eventually rusted after years. Then they made some new ones with wood but that wasn’t convenient because wood burn. Then at year+40 geologists came and bring later (soon?) new one. And grain, blanquet, shirts. I recommend Vice article, it’s more detailed and respectful in my opinion.

by grecy 2y ago

Tor3 2y ago

I'm not sure what the answer is, but for the record whenever I spent a few weeks in the mountains as a younger person, I never brought rifles, lighters, or gps beacons (or any other electronics). I did have matches though, in a waterproof bag. But I also had steel and flint. Knife. And a fishing rod. In fact the most useful modern society thing I brought would be soap.. if you have it you don't think much about it, if you don't then you realize how very useful it is.

grecy 2y ago
I’m impressed! What did you boil water in? Just eat with your fingers?
- Tor3 2y ago
  I brought a pot.. metal, made for this.. I thought that was a given. It would easily last forty-fifty years (re the original article). Not that I would need the pot all the time, fish I would grill in various ways, e.g. on a stick on a fire, or just leaving them on a flat rock close to the fire. The pot was for soup of some kind which I didn't eat very often. As I don't drink coffee when I'm on a mountain hike I wouldn't bring a coffee pot. A knife is a must, if I didn't already mention that. The main point is that I wouldn't need a rifle, a lighter, or a GPS. I wouldn't even have thought of it. Not that there was much GPS around when I was a teenager. A paper map though, that's useful sometimes.
  - grecy 2y ago
    GPS we carry to save our lives. Even 10 days out in the Yukon without gear in late September would be brutal. Like I said, we often gave ourselves 50/50 of surviving - either build some kind of cabin and stay the winter (need rifle and axe minimum) or walk out.

aziaziazi 2y ago

> Boil water They had a couple iron pots that eventually rusted after years. Then they made some new ones with wood but that wasn’t convenient because wood burn. Then at year+40 geologists came and bring later (soon?) new one. And grain, blanquet, shirts. I recommend Vice article, it’s more detailed and respectful in my opinion.