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engineers aren't even on the list of high-demand occupations Probably because there is no demand. My local municipal government was recently looking for someon
by randomdata 14y ago
engineers aren't even on the list of high-demand occupations
Probably because there is no demand. My local municipal government was recently looking for someone to maintain their website, which is little more than a simple blog. The job description essentially laid out the job as your basic, run of the mill CRUD application. The kind of stuff kids in high school do for fun.
When you read down to the requirements section though, they were asking for a CS degree and a bunch of other stuff you would normally expect to find from a $200K/year job at Google, not a mediocre pay, small government job. The fact that they can actually ask for such ridiculous requirements and fill the position speaks to there being far more supply than demand, at least from my point of view.
- dmix 14y agoWhere are you talking about in Canada? Engineers are in really high demand in Toronto for web/mobile.
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- cal5k 14y agoAbsolute nonsense. The only reason that probably got posted was because whoever posted it had no idea what they were doing. Demand for talented engineers in Canada vastly outstrips available supply. Period.
- a3camero 14y agoI attended an event in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada in the summer with about 50 local developers. At the end they had an informal few minutes where people who are hiring can stand up and pitch. There were a half dozen people from medium to large companies (e.g. Electronic Arts was one of the large ones). They asked who was looking for work and not a single person raised their hand.
- excuse-me 14y agoEven if you are an engineer you want get to work as one in Canada. It's the closed-est closed shop outside the Vatican. Any supervisor role in government/large industry needs a registered professional - ie a pEng, and they don't recognise any one elses engineers. PhD rocket scientists on Canadarm are supervised by new electrical engineering graduates. There is a special exemption to allow university science profs to supervise PhD students but the engineering institute is campaigning against it. It's a nice place to work in many ways, but it is like working in Britain in the 70s
- stan_rogers 14y agoThat has mostly to do with the fact that the title Engineer isn't thrown around loosely—most of the engineering grads I know are employed under the title Technologist (or something similar on the impressiveness scale). Engineer is usually reserved for positions with attached professional liability, and yes, the iron ring is part of that deal.
- unavoidable 14y agoThe iron ring has nothing to do with the Professional Engineer title. The iron ring is run by alumni of various Canadian engineering schools, and is granted to all students graduating from an engineering class with a Bachelor of Applied Science or Engineering. It's a symbolic gesture to remind graduates of their responsibilities to society, etc. The title of "Professional Engineer" (P.Eng.) is reserved by law to those who are granted that title by the self-governing engineering bodies of each province (e.g. Professional Engineers of Ontario). You can't legally represent yourself as an Engineer in Canada unless you are a registered P.Eng. The title does indeed attach professional liability, and is a method of ensuring responsibility and safety in engineering projects.
- mark_story 14y agoI call BS on this. From my experience in Toronto, there are many companies looking for developers and having a difficult time finding quality candidates.