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> We've already seen videos from the usual suspects showing that people who are sufficiently skilled with a soldering iron can replace the flash chips Sure, bu

> We've already seen videos from the usual suspects showing that people who are sufficiently skilled with a soldering iron can replace the flash chips Sure, but I don't think soldering skills is exactly what I'd have in mind when I think "upgradeable".

GeekyBear 2y ago
As noted above, you can simply replace that module with a higher capacity module with just a screwdriver, as iFixIt did. However, there is a real opportunity for those who do have soldering skills to make a quick buck here. You could pretty easily buy the cheap base model M4 and resell it as a custom upgrade build, as long as you were clear that the SSD was no longer stock.
- goosedragons 2y ago
  The problem is getting the module... It's not an easy solder job and they are picky about what NANDs they work with and how they're configured. It's better than soldered to the board but not by much.
  - GeekyBear 2y ago
    It comes free with the base model. Given the price Apple charges for the high end upgrades, it's worth your time to buy the base model, do the uograde, and sell the upgraded unit. For instance, here's a Mac Studio being upgraded to 8 TB. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDFCurB3-0Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDFCurB3-0Q
- AshamedCaptain 2y ago
  Sorry, but again this is an abuse of the word upgradeable. You could do the same with many other laptops and even some phones out there - buy from a 3rd party who has resoldered the corresponding parts. The replaceable modules brought you nothing. Even the economic motive you mention is actually just because Apple overcharges for storage, and has nothing to do with the replaceable modules. As long as there is no cheap 3rd party source of these, a replacement module ecosystem makes no economic sense (someone will always have to bring in his device for resoldering, or you lose the price of one good working base model).
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GeekyBear 2y ago

As noted above, you can simply replace that module with a higher capacity module with just a screwdriver, as iFixIt did. However, there is a real opportunity for those who do have soldering skills to make a quick buck here. You could pretty easily buy the cheap base model M4 and resell it as a custom upgrade build, as long as you were clear that the SSD was no longer stock.

goosedragons 2y ago
The problem is getting the module... It's not an easy solder job and they are picky about what NANDs they work with and how they're configured. It's better than soldered to the board but not by much.
- GeekyBear 2y ago
  It comes free with the base model. Given the price Apple charges for the high end upgrades, it's worth your time to buy the base model, do the uograde, and sell the upgraded unit. For instance, here's a Mac Studio being upgraded to 8 TB. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDFCurB3-0Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDFCurB3-0Q
AshamedCaptain 2y ago
Sorry, but again this is an abuse of the word upgradeable. You could do the same with many other laptops and even some phones out there - buy from a 3rd party who has resoldered the corresponding parts. The replaceable modules brought you nothing. Even the economic motive you mention is actually just because Apple overcharges for storage, and has nothing to do with the replaceable modules. As long as there is no cheap 3rd party source of these, a replacement module ecosystem makes no economic sense (someone will always have to bring in his device for resoldering, or you lose the price of one good working base model).

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