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From an eWaste perspective this is great news, it just seems to be a pity that Spotify themselves hasn't been leading or endorsing it. (With the EUs continued

by quitit 2y ago

From an eWaste perspective this is great news, it just seems to be a pity that Spotify themselves hasn't been leading or endorsing it. (With the EUs continued focus on eWaste it also seems odd that the largest music service could just get away with bricking them all.)

shiroiushi 2y ago
Honestly, I don't see why a company should be required to expend any resources on something they've given up on and which they don't think is going to be profitable any more, as long as they don't hamper any efforts to reuse that equipment. So if they just make available the code and tools necessary for interested third parties to use it (so it doesn't become bricked e-waste), I think that's sufficient. Perhaps for embedded computer systems like this, there should be an EU requirement for companies sunsetting products to simply make publicly available the tooling necessary to reflash them with new software, along with any other information necessary for hackers to get started.
- Libcat99 2y ago
  I don't disagree IF they make tooling available for reuse. Of course, I'd prefer they do that all along.
- imglorp 2y ago
  Apple and others should be forced to unlock its abandoned hardware. If they don't want to deal with it any more that's fine, but it shouldn't be ewaste. I have an old ipad mini that is still super hardware but they won't permit new apps on it. I would love to wipe and put linux or something on but that's not possible. This behavior shows contempt for the customer and the planet.
  - shiroiushi 2y ago
    I agree, I should have also added that any tools needed to unlock the hardware should be made available.
- tpxl 2y ago
  > Honestly, I don't see why a company should be required to expend any resources on something they've given up on and which they don't think is going to be profitable any more Because selling shit you're going to brick 2 weeks later is literally against the law in the EU.
  - shiroiushi 2y ago
    I never said companies should be allowed to abandon hardware only 2 weeks after selling it; that's ridiculous. Of course, they should be required to properly service it for the duration of the warranty period (which I think is 2 years in the EU, and seems like a good number that should be the minimum standard everywhere).
rmccue 2y ago
As far as I've seen, it was only sold in the US, so EU regs wouldn't apply.

by quitit 2y ago

shiroiushi 2y ago

Honestly, I don't see why a company should be required to expend any resources on something they've given up on and which they don't think is going to be profitable any more, as long as they don't hamper any efforts to reuse that equipment. So if they just make available the code and tools necessary for interested third parties to use it (so it doesn't become bricked e-waste), I think that's sufficient. Perhaps for embedded computer systems like this, there should be an EU requirement for companies sunsetting products to simply make publicly available the tooling necessary to reflash them with new software, along with any other information necessary for hackers to get started.

Libcat99 2y ago
I don't disagree IF they make tooling available for reuse. Of course, I'd prefer they do that all along.
imglorp 2y ago
Apple and others should be forced to unlock its abandoned hardware. If they don't want to deal with it any more that's fine, but it shouldn't be ewaste. I have an old ipad mini that is still super hardware but they won't permit new apps on it. I would love to wipe and put linux or something on but that's not possible. This behavior shows contempt for the customer and the planet.
- shiroiushi 2y ago
  I agree, I should have also added that any tools needed to unlock the hardware should be made available.
tpxl 2y ago
> Honestly, I don't see why a company should be required to expend any resources on something they've given up on and which they don't think is going to be profitable any more Because selling shit you're going to brick 2 weeks later is literally against the law in the EU.
- shiroiushi 2y ago
  I never said companies should be allowed to abandon hardware only 2 weeks after selling it; that's ridiculous. Of course, they should be required to properly service it for the duration of the warranty period (which I think is 2 years in the EU, and seems like a good number that should be the minimum standard everywhere).

rmccue 2y ago

As far as I've seen, it was only sold in the US, so EU regs wouldn't apply.