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Unless I'm mistaken too, the macOS Steam client is still Intel only after all this time. It's not a huge market but I find it kind of weird since there's many

by SG- 2y ago

Unless I'm mistaken too, the macOS Steam client is still Intel only after all this time. It's not a huge market but I find it kind of weird since there's many Apple Silicon games on Steam for sale.

jjcm 2y ago
This too is my biggest request. It's also surprising how many resources the client itself takes. That said, given the stats I agree with their prioritization. OSX makes up 1.39% of their market share: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Softw... Linux has a higher market share than OSX (likely due to the Steam deck, but still I was surprised by this). I actually think this is something Apple should be taking the lead on, rather than Steam. It's clear that they value gaming on their devices, they just invest so little in it. Input latency is still poor and there are still big hiccups in frame rates which make competitive games on OSX a non-starter. If Apple invested more here and partnered with Steam, they could make some significant headways. Apple seems to want to avoid partnership here though (ie the prior vulkan vs metal issues).
- brian-armstrong 2y ago
  Steve Jobs was famously anti-gaming. That presumably still leaves a lot of leftover sentiment within Apple.
  - SG- 2y ago
    he's been dead a while now and they've clearly put some focus in games and have moved on to new products too since that decision was made (iPhones weren't even a thing back then).
- brodock 2y ago
  Why would Valve help Apple get marketshare (in the gaming category), when they can put the same effort into getting the games published to Linux (and the Steam Deck).
  - SG- 2y ago
    because the two markets are different but they're also making more money off other peoples platforms too.
- jamesfinlayson 2y ago
  It seemed like someone at Apple was on board with gaming when Steam launched a Mac client and Mac versions of all of their games - maybe they were partially funding Valve's efforts? But based on what is happening now I'm guessing that's all over.

by SG- 2y ago

Unless I'm mistaken too, the macOS Steam client is still Intel only after all this time. It's not a huge market but I find it kind of weird since there's many Apple Silicon games on Steam for sale.

jjcm 2y ago

This too is my biggest request. It's also surprising how many resources the client itself takes. That said, given the stats I agree with their prioritization. OSX makes up 1.39% of their market share: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Softw... Linux has a higher market share than OSX (likely due to the Steam deck, but still I was surprised by this). I actually think this is something Apple should be taking the lead on, rather than Steam. It's clear that they value gaming on their devices, they just invest so little in it. Input latency is still poor and there are still big hiccups in frame rates which make competitive games on OSX a non-starter. If Apple invested more here and partnered with Steam, they could make some significant headways. Apple seems to want to avoid partnership here though (ie the prior vulkan vs metal issues).

brian-armstrong 2y ago
Steve Jobs was famously anti-gaming. That presumably still leaves a lot of leftover sentiment within Apple.
- SG- 2y ago
  he's been dead a while now and they've clearly put some focus in games and have moved on to new products too since that decision was made (iPhones weren't even a thing back then).
brodock 2y ago
Why would Valve help Apple get marketshare (in the gaming category), when they can put the same effort into getting the games published to Linux (and the Steam Deck).
- SG- 2y ago
  because the two markets are different but they're also making more money off other peoples platforms too.
jamesfinlayson 2y ago
It seemed like someone at Apple was on board with gaming when Steam launched a Mac client and Mac versions of all of their games - maybe they were partially funding Valve's efforts? But based on what is happening now I'm guessing that's all over.