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Its max advertised range. In reality it will likely be smaller depending on driving habits/weather/ac, it is hard to charge EV battery to 100% if you on the mov

Its max advertised range. In reality it will likely be smaller depending on driving habits/weather/ac, it is hard to charge EV battery to 100% if you on the move, you don't want charge to drop to 0% obviously, so you will be charging sooner. I do not own EV, but people have range anxiety on reddit.

dzhiurgis 2y ago
Nah this is it’s real range. 300 km highway, 400+ city. Where I live there’s a charge station every 50km. Of course it’s harder in US.
- riku_iki 2y ago
  > Where I live there’s a charge station every 50km. yes, but it will charge fast up to 80%, and will charge slow after that, so it is question of how much time you waste.
  - dzhiurgis 2y ago
    Charges plenty fast after that. I normally don’t even have enough time to eat.
  - dangus 2y ago
    You never need to nor should you charge above 80% on an EV unless you have a driving situation where you absolutely need that range to hit the next charging station. It's faster to just charge multiple times rather than spend time charging above 80%.
    - riku_iki 2y ago
      > where you absolutely need that range to hit the next charging station. Yes, I think range concerns are mostly about long road trips.
dangus 2y ago
My theory is people who don't have EVs have range anxiety. Sometimes it seems like people forget just how far 100+ miles is. Okay, sure, an EV with 230 miles of ideal range is really more like 150-180 miles given that you're not charging up past 80% regularly and given not-always-ideal conditions. But that's a lot of miles. That could be 3 straight hours of highway driving. I know for me, personally, with my gasoline car I can count on one hand the number of times I've driven more than 3 hours in one day in the past year.
- riku_iki 2y ago
  I think 100 miles/d could be quite common commute in some places in US (50 mins driving one way on highway withing speed limit). Also, range anxiety is mostly for those who is taking road trips, not for everyday commute. And there are other factors: model3 is 10k more expensive than civic hybrid, electricity cost in California (as example from references on car prices above) is over the top.
  - dangus 2y ago
    My point is, a used model 3 or similar EV depreciates a lot faster than a civic hybrid, so a typical 3 year old off-lease buyer will find that both of those cars cost about the same amount of money. And sure electricity cost in California is through the roof but so is gasoline right? It’s a full dollar and a half per gallon higher than Texas according to GasBuddy. Let’s not forget about overnight off-peak EV rates that are half or less than the day rates. And then you get other benefits to EV ownership like a reduced maintenance schedule, no oil changes, if you have charging at home you never go to a gas station again unless you’re on a long trip. Saves you time.
    - riku_iki 2y ago
      Sorry, I somehow missed the point about used M3, I agree, this could be a good deal. > And sure electricity cost in California is through the roof but so is gasoline right? Gasoline maybe more expensive by 30%, but electricity N times. Last time I plugged numbers in some calculator, it was more expensive to charge Tesla on supercharger. If you have house with solar roof, or can charge off-peak, numbers could be different.

dzhiurgis 2y ago

Nah this is it’s real range. 300 km highway, 400+ city. Where I live there’s a charge station every 50km. Of course it’s harder in US.

riku_iki 2y ago
> Where I live there’s a charge station every 50km. yes, but it will charge fast up to 80%, and will charge slow after that, so it is question of how much time you waste.
- dzhiurgis 2y ago
  Charges plenty fast after that. I normally don’t even have enough time to eat.
- dangus 2y ago
  You never need to nor should you charge above 80% on an EV unless you have a driving situation where you absolutely need that range to hit the next charging station. It's faster to just charge multiple times rather than spend time charging above 80%.
  - riku_iki 2y ago
    > where you absolutely need that range to hit the next charging station. Yes, I think range concerns are mostly about long road trips.

dangus 2y ago

My theory is people who don't have EVs have range anxiety. Sometimes it seems like people forget just how far 100+ miles is. Okay, sure, an EV with 230 miles of ideal range is really more like 150-180 miles given that you're not charging up past 80% regularly and given not-always-ideal conditions. But that's a lot of miles. That could be 3 straight hours of highway driving. I know for me, personally, with my gasoline car I can count on one hand the number of times I've driven more than 3 hours in one day in the past year.

riku_iki 2y ago
I think 100 miles/d could be quite common commute in some places in US (50 mins driving one way on highway withing speed limit). Also, range anxiety is mostly for those who is taking road trips, not for everyday commute. And there are other factors: model3 is 10k more expensive than civic hybrid, electricity cost in California (as example from references on car prices above) is over the top.
- dangus 2y ago
  My point is, a used model 3 or similar EV depreciates a lot faster than a civic hybrid, so a typical 3 year old off-lease buyer will find that both of those cars cost about the same amount of money. And sure electricity cost in California is through the roof but so is gasoline right? It’s a full dollar and a half per gallon higher than Texas according to GasBuddy. Let’s not forget about overnight off-peak EV rates that are half or less than the day rates. And then you get other benefits to EV ownership like a reduced maintenance schedule, no oil changes, if you have charging at home you never go to a gas station again unless you’re on a long trip. Saves you time.
  - riku_iki 2y ago
    Sorry, I somehow missed the point about used M3, I agree, this could be a good deal. > And sure electricity cost in California is through the roof but so is gasoline right? Gasoline maybe more expensive by 30%, but electricity N times. Last time I plugged numbers in some calculator, it was more expensive to charge Tesla on supercharger. If you have house with solar roof, or can charge off-peak, numbers could be different.