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> This is just not true, I far prefer to bike next or in front of waymos on shared roadways because they keep proper distance and are predictable. Safe biking
by panick21_ 2y ago
> This is just not true, I far prefer to bike next or in front of waymos on shared roadways because they keep proper distance and are predictable.
Safe biking is already being done. Instead of having a waymo, having good street design and more people using the roads in things other then cars makes it far more save.
If its a low speed road, driving with human on it is pretty save. If its a high speed road, you shouldn't share it with a car anyway.
> Possibly true but let's see some evidence.
Even if you can't prove its more, its unlikely to be significantly less. And even say 20% less, would still be far to much. Utrecht has a much lower number of car trips compared to Fake London without AVs.
So at best, you are still far worse then simply adopting better urban design.
> Waiting for a train sucks, people want to go point to point.
Waiting in traffic jams sucks as well.
People care about what is faster and cheaper. At scale, on aggregate a proper transportation system is more efficient, faster and cheaper overall for society. If people actually had to carry the true cost of their 'point to point system' they wouldn't want it.
The US with their amazing 'point to point' system has hilarious amounts of traffic jams and cities with incredibly long commute times. Even while being far less dense, far less efficient and owning car is more expensive then a city wide public transport ticket in a comparably sized city Europe.
> Same argument can be made for public transit / trains. It's not a good argument.
Same dumb argument people make about induced demand. You want to encourage public transport because, its environmentally friendly, highly space efficient, on aggregate highly cost efficient and leads to urban design that is incredibly for living quality.
Encouraging people to use the least efficient means of production is bad, encouraging people to use the most efficient means of transportation is good.