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My pessimistic self sees a future where some jobs will only be available if you: - Have facebook a account. - Allow your potential employer to see everything

by bluthru 14y ago

My pessimistic self sees a future where some jobs will only be available if you: - Have facebook a account. - Allow your potential employer to see everything in your personal profile. Don't have a facebook account or don't want to share intimate details not related to the job? Well too bad, because there are plenty of desperate people that will.

cdf 14y ago
I see facebook's mission is to be the one universal ID system, superseding passports issued by governments. To achieve that, personal profiles must be correct and accurate. Being a job search site is a calculated step in that direction, not a desperate search for a business model.
nerdfiles 14y ago
Let's assume FB will cover Microsoft's old turf. That said, I wouldn't want to work through FB/MS anyway (think MS Certs, 'corporate dev bloat' with SharePoint... Now... FB Job Auth API). And I might be able to leverage my 'brand aversion' to isolate dev shops I do wish to work under. They probably would prefer it that I not allow the 'excess' of FB into my life anyway. Or they might simply find FB's brand generally repugnant. All in all, FB won't be leading tech-intersect-science innovation (designer drugs through cool UIs, all the NP-hard problems that come from dual hypertext/image cool URIs, neural networks and actual utilities and ecological solutions). FB, at best, will be the ID/human-auth system for SpaceX. FB has inherently limited itself to custodian software. Keeping the 'human namespace' tidy. Boring. Like MS and its 'hardware philanthropy' FB just wants to be present with the path of least resistence. MS succeeded with its imperative to put hardware everywhere, and they naturally earn market victory with that. Well, now humans are the new hardware, and FB is approaching that model. 'Desperation' should be determined based on how closely FB mirrors MS's Moore's Law Model. That would presuppose artificial shaping of the market (something along the lines of eugenics-thinking). There will still be innovation, and that's what we will compete for.
powrtoch 14y ago
Facebook profiles can be expected to contain information about one's religion, sexuality, and other factors employers aren't allowed to ask about, and can get sued for trying to find out. At worst FB could create a sanitized version of your profile to share with employers.
- pavel_lishin 14y ago
  Yes, I trust Facebook to not leak those private details through a confusion of unintuitive privacy settings, poorly thought out changes to the software, and plain ol' security holes.
  - moonchrome 14y ago
    Yeah I'm sure that companies are going to invest millions in finding zero day exploits and find legal nuances to find out if the employee is a Muslim or gay before hiring them...
    - pavel_lishin 14y ago
      Well, if there's a privacy error made on facebook's part, there's no investment necessary. As far as exploits, it only takes one company willing to sell that exploit to others.
kirubakaran 14y ago
Discrimination law suits have resulted in employers not daring to ask something like "Are you married?". Same thing will happen if employers require you to open your Facebook account to them, which is like asking all possible personal questions all at once. Some good laws would be made too.
- fluidcruft 14y ago
  Anti-discrimination laws are rooted in the federal government's Commerce power, aren't they? I don't think we know yet the implications of the ACA ruling there. If you can't force people to engage in commercial activity they don't want (buy health insurance they don't want to buy), how can you force them to engage in commercial activity they don't want (employ people they don't want to employ)?

by bluthru 14y ago

cdf 14y ago

I see facebook's mission is to be the one universal ID system, superseding passports issued by governments. To achieve that, personal profiles must be correct and accurate. Being a job search site is a calculated step in that direction, not a desperate search for a business model.

nerdfiles 14y ago

Let's assume FB will cover Microsoft's old turf. That said, I wouldn't want to work through FB/MS anyway (think MS Certs, 'corporate dev bloat' with SharePoint... Now... FB Job Auth API). And I might be able to leverage my 'brand aversion' to isolate dev shops I do wish to work under. They probably would prefer it that I not allow the 'excess' of FB into my life anyway. Or they might simply find FB's brand generally repugnant. All in all, FB won't be leading tech-intersect-science innovation (designer drugs through cool UIs, all the NP-hard problems that come from dual hypertext/image cool URIs, neural networks and actual utilities and ecological solutions). FB, at best, will be the ID/human-auth system for SpaceX. FB has inherently limited itself to custodian software. Keeping the 'human namespace' tidy. Boring. Like MS and its 'hardware philanthropy' FB just wants to be present with the path of least resistence. MS succeeded with its imperative to put hardware everywhere, and they naturally earn market victory with that. Well, now humans are the new hardware, and FB is approaching that model. 'Desperation' should be determined based on how closely FB mirrors MS's Moore's Law Model. That would presuppose artificial shaping of the market (something along the lines of eugenics-thinking). There will still be innovation, and that's what we will compete for.

powrtoch 14y ago

Facebook profiles can be expected to contain information about one's religion, sexuality, and other factors employers aren't allowed to ask about, and can get sued for trying to find out. At worst FB could create a sanitized version of your profile to share with employers.

pavel_lishin 14y ago
Yes, I trust Facebook to not leak those private details through a confusion of unintuitive privacy settings, poorly thought out changes to the software, and plain ol' security holes.
- moonchrome 14y ago
  Yeah I'm sure that companies are going to invest millions in finding zero day exploits and find legal nuances to find out if the employee is a Muslim or gay before hiring them...
  - pavel_lishin 14y ago
    Well, if there's a privacy error made on facebook's part, there's no investment necessary. As far as exploits, it only takes one company willing to sell that exploit to others.

kirubakaran 14y ago

Discrimination law suits have resulted in employers not daring to ask something like "Are you married?". Same thing will happen if employers require you to open your Facebook account to them, which is like asking all possible personal questions all at once. Some good laws would be made too.

fluidcruft 14y ago
Anti-discrimination laws are rooted in the federal government's Commerce power, aren't they? I don't think we know yet the implications of the ACA ruling there. If you can't force people to engage in commercial activity they don't want (buy health insurance they don't want to buy), how can you force them to engage in commercial activity they don't want (employ people they don't want to employ)?