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> Nvidia invented the GPU in 1999 This is just plain not true. Who edited this? Did no one even bother to skim the Wikipedia page on GPUs?

parshimers 2y ago
yeah, you could argue that the RIVA128 was the first successful PC GPU that didn't require a separate video card, but that's not the same thing.
- p_l 2y ago
  succesful consumer PC GPU, if that.
baq 2y ago
> Who edited this? chatgpt, probably.
f1shy 2y ago
The whole thing is absolutely utter crap. As early as 2002 there was, in the university where I studied a BIG push into NN. The term “deep learning” is also lousy and marketing.
- Chabsff 2y ago
  Isn't "deep learning" specifically referring to the breakthroughs that finally started addressing the issues preventing architectures with more than a single hidden layer from achieving anything? Unless I'm getting all of that wrong, it doesn't sound like that bad of a term. I get that it has since been used and abused to absurdity. But it's not like it came out of nowhere at first.
  - mp05 2y ago
    My professor told me learning is considered "deep" if your NN has more than two layers.
  - f1shy 2y ago
    That is deep neural network. More than 2 hidden layers. The “learning” is marketing
IAmGraydon 2y ago
Yes and to add a bit more color for those who are curious, the term "GPU" was coined by Sony in reference to the 32-bit Sony GPU (designed by Toshiba) in the PlayStation video game console, released in 1994. That said, the first devices that could be qualified as GPUs came about in the 1970s.
giobox 2y ago
Interestingly Nvidia make the exact same claim in 1999 when launching the Geforce 256. "3-D graphics systems maker nVidia (NVDA) Tuesday unveiled its next generation graphics accelerator, which it hopes will deflect some of the attention from new console gaming machines. The GeForce 256, which nVidia calls the world's first graphics processing unit, will be the successor to its TNT 2 line of graphics chips." > https://money.cnn.com/1999/08/31/technology/nvidia/ https://money.cnn.com/1999/08/31/technology/nvidia/ Reading deeper, it seems like Nvidia considered it the first because it was the first GPU to ship with hardware accelerated T&L: "GeForce 256 was marketed as "the world's first 'GPU', or Graphics Processing Unit", a term Nvidia defined at the time as "a single-chip processor with integrated transform, lighting, triangle setup/clipping, and rendering engines that is capable of processing a minimum of 10 million polygons per second"." > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_256 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_256 I would also consider earlier NVidia parts like the TNT2 to be GPUs, personally, not sure I agree with this claim either. I certainly called my TNT2 a graphics card back when I bought one in the 90s.
- p_l 2y ago
  It wasn't even first GPU with hw t&l, it was first PC GPU with hw T&L, because legacy of gaming use meant that major graphic cards on PCs started from texturing side while hw t&l is where workstation GPUs started out.
  - VyseofArcadia 2y ago
    Like when Henry Ford invented the wheel*. * The first wheel with an axle**. ** The first wheel with an axle for horseless carriages.

parshimers 2y ago

yeah, you could argue that the RIVA128 was the first successful PC GPU that didn't require a separate video card, but that's not the same thing.

p_l 2y ago
succesful consumer PC GPU, if that.

baq 2y ago

> Who edited this? chatgpt, probably.

f1shy 2y ago

The whole thing is absolutely utter crap. As early as 2002 there was, in the university where I studied a BIG push into NN. The term “deep learning” is also lousy and marketing.

Chabsff 2y ago
Isn't "deep learning" specifically referring to the breakthroughs that finally started addressing the issues preventing architectures with more than a single hidden layer from achieving anything? Unless I'm getting all of that wrong, it doesn't sound like that bad of a term. I get that it has since been used and abused to absurdity. But it's not like it came out of nowhere at first.
- mp05 2y ago
  My professor told me learning is considered "deep" if your NN has more than two layers.
- f1shy 2y ago
  That is deep neural network. More than 2 hidden layers. The “learning” is marketing

IAmGraydon 2y ago

Yes and to add a bit more color for those who are curious, the term "GPU" was coined by Sony in reference to the 32-bit Sony GPU (designed by Toshiba) in the PlayStation video game console, released in 1994. That said, the first devices that could be qualified as GPUs came about in the 1970s.

giobox 2y ago

Interestingly Nvidia make the exact same claim in 1999 when launching the Geforce 256. "3-D graphics systems maker nVidia (NVDA) Tuesday unveiled its next generation graphics accelerator, which it hopes will deflect some of the attention from new console gaming machines. The GeForce 256, which nVidia calls the world's first graphics processing unit, will be the successor to its TNT 2 line of graphics chips." > https://money.cnn.com/1999/08/31/technology/nvidia/ https://money.cnn.com/1999/08/31/technology/nvidia/ Reading deeper, it seems like Nvidia considered it the first because it was the first GPU to ship with hardware accelerated T&L: "GeForce 256 was marketed as "the world's first 'GPU', or Graphics Processing Unit", a term Nvidia defined at the time as "a single-chip processor with integrated transform, lighting, triangle setup/clipping, and rendering engines that is capable of processing a minimum of 10 million polygons per second"." > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_256 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_256 I would also consider earlier NVidia parts like the TNT2 to be GPUs, personally, not sure I agree with this claim either. I certainly called my TNT2 a graphics card back when I bought one in the 90s.

p_l 2y ago
It wasn't even first GPU with hw t&l, it was first PC GPU with hw T&L, because legacy of gaming use meant that major graphic cards on PCs started from texturing side while hw t&l is where workstation GPUs started out.
- VyseofArcadia 2y ago
  Like when Henry Ford invented the wheel*. * The first wheel with an axle**. ** The first wheel with an axle for horseless carriages.