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On a recent SF trip except for the airport I used waymo the entire time. About the same price as uber/lyft, cheaper if you tip human drivers. Very cool to see
by tayo42 2y ago
On a recent SF trip except for the airport I used waymo the entire time. About the same price as uber/lyft, cheaper if you tip human drivers.
Very cool to see how fast we went from taxis, to the app based rides to app based self driving cars like this.
After working in silicon valley tech companies for almost 10 years, ive been become really cynical about it all. This is one of the few things that actually seems really cool. I actually looked up to see if their hiring but they don't hire remote.
- AlotOfReading 2y agoWaymo followed the rest of the alphabet companies in the back to office drama post-covid. You can still get remote positions if they want you badly enough to grant an exception. Cruise did remote, but they're not the best choice lately. Zoox thinks remote work is a sin of the highest order because they're owned by Amazon.
- archagon 2y agoIt makes me sad that people get more excited about Waymo than public transit. Our Muni trains are clean, modern, and efficient, and the BART is an infrastructural marvel of sorts. I’d much rather criss-cross the city with light rail than add more expensive Waymos.
- creer 2y agoThere is a /s missing in there. Muni is painfully slow, the entire system including BART dangerous, and the timetable a joke.
- archagon 2y agoIt’s just a straight up lie to call the Muni “painfully slow” and “dangerous.” I ride the trains every day to and from the Mission and rarely encounter any issues. Trains come every 5-15m, depending on time of day; not sure where the “joke” is here. To me, the experience is quite comparable to light rail in places like Amsterdam, Brussels, and Melbourne, except that we have a lot less of it. BART is a bit more grimy but hardly less safe than e.g. the NY Subway.
- creer 2y agoYou are welcome to your preference, paaaaaatttiiiiiieeeeennnnnccccce and experience. I'm truly glad it works for you. I use the system when I have to - it's dangerous often enough and slow enough and unpredictable enough that it's only "when I have to" - usually for self inflicted issues of parking and cost and unpredictability of Uber/Lyft itself. That's the problem with "dangerous often enough" for example: you can't tell before getting on a vehicle whether that will be an exception or the rule and you plan based on the general experience. Which is not good for me. The timetable joke is because of its uselessness for planning switches or choices from one line to another, all the way to entirely missing vehicles. If you need transfers, you try and use a real-time app and you better be extremely agile with it. Good luck to the rest of us.
- archagon 2y agoWhat do you mean by “dangerous”? I can’t even recall the last time I encountered some sort of major disturbance on a Muni train. Transfer-wise, the worst case scenario is that you’ll end up waiting 15 minutes for the next train, but it’s pretty unlikely. (And this is something easily solvable with more trains.) Perhaps most importantly, though, Muni is 10x cheaper than ridesharing as well as far more egalitarian. Paying $10-20 to get anywhere in the city is just setting a pile of money on fire.
- rangestransform 2y ago> far more egalitarian I would rather that some don't suffer than everyone suffer equally
- rangestransform 2y agoI can run faster than muni metro's at grade sections
- tayo42 2y agoI just think the tech is cool, it's not a comment on what is good for the world or public policy.
- rahimnathwani 2y agoI can drive to the Exploratorium in 20 mins. The BART ride is 22 mins, but it includes over 15 mins' walk at each end, meaning the total journey time is 2.5x. This 2.5x to 3x is typical, in my experience. If I'm on my own, it's faster to cycle than to take public transport.
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- kernal 2y agoThis is the most appealing feature to me - no tipping.