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Best part of Trump’s win is that we can be openly suspicious of the government again without being slandered as a conspiracy theorist. All the old critiques ar

Best part of Trump’s win is that we can be openly suspicious of the government again without being slandered as a conspiracy theorist. All the old critiques are back in fashion: election tampering, pharma corruption, authoritarianism. Welcome back !

krapp 2y ago
Except the people who were openly suspicious of government tended only to be suspicious when a "leftist" was in power. You'll notice all of the worries about election tampering just vanished as soon as Trump won, and none of the people crying about government overreach and authoritarianism seem to care about the degree of arbitrary and unchecked power Trump and Elon Musk seem to want to wield. The upcoming administration is probably going to be neck deep in actual honest to God conspiracies and crimes and none of that lot are going to say a damn thing, but they'll probably still be harping on Hunter Biden's laptop or some other such nonsense.
- jihadjihad 2y ago
  > You'll notice all of the worries about election tampering just vanished as soon as Trump won They didn't. On the right, his commanding win is seen as "evidence" that 2020 must have been illegitimate; on the left the fact that Democratic turnover cratered from 2020 is seen as "evidence" of some sort of foul play.
- wakawaka28 2y ago
  No, plenty of people think Democrats tried to cheat in this one and failed. There are many states with no ID requirements, which is unthinkable in modern times. Let's actually secure the elections instead of making it partisan. >they'll probably still be harping on Hunter Biden's laptop or some other such nonsense. That is not and never was nonsense. It was censored heavily and subject to propaganda like the "51 intelligence officers" or whatever despite being totally true. That is a horrible offense against the people and heads have yet to roll for it.
  - krapp 2y ago
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    - dang 2y ago
      Your account has been ratcheting up the guidelines violations lately and frequently crossing into personal attack. That's not cool. Can you please fix this? I don't want to ban you, but we're getting complaints and the people complaining aren't wrong. At some point we have to apply the rules semi-even-handedly instead of making grand exceptions. I'm not saying the comments you're flaming are any good either, but we can't have accounts doing this kind of thing with impunity. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42090460 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42090460 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41691032 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41691032 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41386003 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41386003 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41335066 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41335066 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41252307 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41252307 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40886721 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40886721
      - krapp 2y ago
        Ok, fair enough. I'll dial it back. I'm not apologizing for being rude to a nazi though.
        wakawaka28 2y ago
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        krapp 2y ago
        I was referencing a comment of mine on dang's list from a few months ago where some green account literally showed up calling themselves a white supremacist and a Nazi. And I wasn't replying to you. And since I'm being censured here, all I will say is time will tell, and I don't think it will tell you what you expect to hear.
- tonymet 2y ago
  <meme> first time , huh?

krapp 2y ago

Except the people who were openly suspicious of government tended only to be suspicious when a "leftist" was in power. You'll notice all of the worries about election tampering just vanished as soon as Trump won, and none of the people crying about government overreach and authoritarianism seem to care about the degree of arbitrary and unchecked power Trump and Elon Musk seem to want to wield. The upcoming administration is probably going to be neck deep in actual honest to God conspiracies and crimes and none of that lot are going to say a damn thing, but they'll probably still be harping on Hunter Biden's laptop or some other such nonsense.

jihadjihad 2y ago
> You'll notice all of the worries about election tampering just vanished as soon as Trump won They didn't. On the right, his commanding win is seen as "evidence" that 2020 must have been illegitimate; on the left the fact that Democratic turnover cratered from 2020 is seen as "evidence" of some sort of foul play.
wakawaka28 2y ago
No, plenty of people think Democrats tried to cheat in this one and failed. There are many states with no ID requirements, which is unthinkable in modern times. Let's actually secure the elections instead of making it partisan. >they'll probably still be harping on Hunter Biden's laptop or some other such nonsense. That is not and never was nonsense. It was censored heavily and subject to propaganda like the "51 intelligence officers" or whatever despite being totally true. That is a horrible offense against the people and heads have yet to roll for it.
- krapp 2y ago
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  - dang 2y ago
    Your account has been ratcheting up the guidelines violations lately and frequently crossing into personal attack. That's not cool. Can you please fix this? I don't want to ban you, but we're getting complaints and the people complaining aren't wrong. At some point we have to apply the rules semi-even-handedly instead of making grand exceptions. I'm not saying the comments you're flaming are any good either, but we can't have accounts doing this kind of thing with impunity. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42090460 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42090460 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41691032 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41691032 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41386003 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41386003 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41335066 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41335066 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41252307 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41252307 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40886721 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40886721
    - krapp 2y ago
      Ok, fair enough. I'll dial it back. I'm not apologizing for being rude to a nazi though.
      - wakawaka28 2y ago
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        krapp 2y ago
        I was referencing a comment of mine on dang's list from a few months ago where some green account literally showed up calling themselves a white supremacist and a Nazi. And I wasn't replying to you. And since I'm being censured here, all I will say is time will tell, and I don't think it will tell you what you expect to hear.
tonymet 2y ago
<meme> first time , huh?