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Ok, I'm almost convinced to start lifting weights... if they release a study showing hair growing I'll be 100% in.

by blastonico 2y ago

maxilevi 2y ago
There is no negative effect to doing so, why would you not?
- the__alchemist 2y ago
  Time, and it may be desirable to avoid things you find uncomfortable.
  - swat535 2y ago
    The time commitment is vastly over stated. It takes an hour at most and you can go twice a week, working different muscle groups. Your muscles need 3-4 days of rest especially as you increase intensity. So you can only do bicep workouts once a week for example. Even then, any exercise is better than none. You can even just start at home with adjustable dumbbells and go to the gym when you hit those limits..
    - the__alchemist 2y ago
      If I did everything people said isn't a big time commitment, I'd have no time left! Edit: A more direct response - I agree with you that it's not a big deal, especially if you have dumbbells etc at home. (I think it's worth it, and lift weights.) It's still a time commitment, and therefore opportunity cost. That is a downside, irt the parent comment. I think you'll find many weight lifters spend more than the amount of time you cited. (Especially if they don't have a home gym), and I suspect any benefits are proportional (not linearly) to time spent doing it.
- ssl-3 2y ago
  There's all kinds of potential negative effects. 1. It generally comes at non-zero financial expense. 2. I might not know what I'm doing. 3. I might get hurt. 4. I might cause someone else to get hurt. Or, perhaps most-tortuously: 5. They're all going to laugh at me.
  - SirMaster 2y ago
    Yeah, I wish more emphasis was put on #3. I keep getting hurt via various forms of exercise. My last injury was a herniated disc which has cost me so much time and money for surgery and PT and missed work time and such. So a big #1 and #3 for me... Maybe they were because of #2, but I tried to learn as best as I could. I couldn't care less about #5. A lot of time, money, and effort and I still have pretty much nothing to show for it. I am still quite thin and weak. I wont give up, but it's definitely not as simple as some people make it seem.
  - zackmorris 2y ago
    I know that feeling, I was nervous about the risks you listed when I was broke and started lifting around 2000/2001 anyway. Trust me, the expense of losing one's health due to inactivity is higher than any financial cost. I trained intuitively, which mostly means going it alone at the school of hard knocks by trying everything and keeping what sticks. I got hurt countless times from ego lifting too much weight in my 20s, not going through the full range of motion, etc, but nobody else got hurt on my watch. But athletes pretty much always recover anyway. That's the important part - learning that proper exercise, nutrition and supplementation makes the body fungible, so there's really no limit to what it's capable of. Now I'm one of the biggest guys at the gym as a lifelong natty and nobody's laughed at me since I got the eye of the tiger about 3 months in.
  - kayge 2y ago
    You can avoid all 5 almost* entirely and make amazing progress by doing bodyweight exercises at home, 2-3 times a week :) There are plenty of free guides out there where you can start at almost any level. E.g. can't do a pushup? put your knees down. Still can't? Do it at a head-up incline. Still can't? Push against a wall. Keep track and make progress until you can move to the next harder exercise. And always remember it's a marathon, not a sprint, so be patient with yourself. * Can't make any promises. You might get hurt. You might need to pay for some kind of pull up system. But generally speaking: the sooner you stop looking for the perfect time/situation and just start, the easier it all becomes.
boredemployee 2y ago
if you can, start right away. i've always been known among my friends as the most sedentary, lazy, and effort-averse person in the world. but five months ago, that changed, and I regret not starting sooner. it seems like you develop a self-challenge component that you'll only understand once you start
- busterarm 2y ago
  Ditto on regretting not starting sooner. I've done varying amount of exercise throughout life, but really dedicating myself to whole body weight-training/yoga/core-and-balance over a period of about a year has fundamentally changed my life in countless ways. I wouldn't even say you understand it once you start. I think understanding requires going for a while without injury, passing your noob gains phase, hitting a plateau and seeing results again. Especially for someone like me into "depth" in strategy games... you realize that the only limits are genetic & mental and the "skill curve" is infinite. Putting effort into training, eating or resting has largely supplanted my desire to play video games. NB: I had previously done a Starting Strength program a decade ago with a not-so-great coach. Coach was a dickhead and didn't discourage me from some really bad training habits that led me to get injured. Injury led to depression, weight gain and not getting back to training for a decade. Maybe that's on me but it's a serious regret and the approach I took to training this time around made all of the difference.
Melonotromo 2y ago
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neom 2y ago
Can relate to the hair growth thing, I've started to enter my "balding" era and I've been having a nervous breakdown. I never really cared about my looks before but the balding thing is really getting to me. Finasteride makes me depressed and minoxidil is so annoying, makes me feel less alone when I read a comment like yours, ha.
- csa 2y ago
  Highly recommend just shaving it all off. If that doesn’t work for whatever reason, then cutting it very short (a few mm) is the second best alternative. Trying to hide it is the worst. Stressing about it is a waste. I started shaving my head when I was about 25. I wish I had done it sooner. No haircuts, no hairstyling, no “bed hair”. I just shave my head when I shave my face, usually in the shower.
- busterarm 2y ago
  I lost all of my hair at 19 years old inside of about 3 high-stress months. From long hair to Stage 7 MPB. Too poor to medicate so I just had to deal with the new me. I don't even remember the experience of getting a haircut and what that's like. I encourage you to embrace it. Go skin bald. There's a lot of hidden benefits and really it's no big deal. All of the treatment options have huge downsides or look like shit.

Ok, I'm almost convinced to start lifting weights... if they release a study showing hair growing I'll be 100% in.

maxilevi 2y ago

There is no negative effect to doing so, why would you not?

the__alchemist 2y ago
Time, and it may be desirable to avoid things you find uncomfortable.
- swat535 2y ago
  The time commitment is vastly over stated. It takes an hour at most and you can go twice a week, working different muscle groups. Your muscles need 3-4 days of rest especially as you increase intensity. So you can only do bicep workouts once a week for example. Even then, any exercise is better than none. You can even just start at home with adjustable dumbbells and go to the gym when you hit those limits..
  - the__alchemist 2y ago
    If I did everything people said isn't a big time commitment, I'd have no time left! Edit: A more direct response - I agree with you that it's not a big deal, especially if you have dumbbells etc at home. (I think it's worth it, and lift weights.) It's still a time commitment, and therefore opportunity cost. That is a downside, irt the parent comment. I think you'll find many weight lifters spend more than the amount of time you cited. (Especially if they don't have a home gym), and I suspect any benefits are proportional (not linearly) to time spent doing it.
ssl-3 2y ago
There's all kinds of potential negative effects. 1. It generally comes at non-zero financial expense. 2. I might not know what I'm doing. 3. I might get hurt. 4. I might cause someone else to get hurt. Or, perhaps most-tortuously: 5. They're all going to laugh at me.
- SirMaster 2y ago
  Yeah, I wish more emphasis was put on #3. I keep getting hurt via various forms of exercise. My last injury was a herniated disc which has cost me so much time and money for surgery and PT and missed work time and such. So a big #1 and #3 for me... Maybe they were because of #2, but I tried to learn as best as I could. I couldn't care less about #5. A lot of time, money, and effort and I still have pretty much nothing to show for it. I am still quite thin and weak. I wont give up, but it's definitely not as simple as some people make it seem.
- zackmorris 2y ago
  I know that feeling, I was nervous about the risks you listed when I was broke and started lifting around 2000/2001 anyway. Trust me, the expense of losing one's health due to inactivity is higher than any financial cost. I trained intuitively, which mostly means going it alone at the school of hard knocks by trying everything and keeping what sticks. I got hurt countless times from ego lifting too much weight in my 20s, not going through the full range of motion, etc, but nobody else got hurt on my watch. But athletes pretty much always recover anyway. That's the important part - learning that proper exercise, nutrition and supplementation makes the body fungible, so there's really no limit to what it's capable of. Now I'm one of the biggest guys at the gym as a lifelong natty and nobody's laughed at me since I got the eye of the tiger about 3 months in.
- kayge 2y ago
  You can avoid all 5 almost* entirely and make amazing progress by doing bodyweight exercises at home, 2-3 times a week :) There are plenty of free guides out there where you can start at almost any level. E.g. can't do a pushup? put your knees down. Still can't? Do it at a head-up incline. Still can't? Push against a wall. Keep track and make progress until you can move to the next harder exercise. And always remember it's a marathon, not a sprint, so be patient with yourself. * Can't make any promises. You might get hurt. You might need to pay for some kind of pull up system. But generally speaking: the sooner you stop looking for the perfect time/situation and just start, the easier it all becomes.

boredemployee 2y ago

if you can, start right away. i've always been known among my friends as the most sedentary, lazy, and effort-averse person in the world. but five months ago, that changed, and I regret not starting sooner. it seems like you develop a self-challenge component that you'll only understand once you start

busterarm 2y ago
Ditto on regretting not starting sooner. I've done varying amount of exercise throughout life, but really dedicating myself to whole body weight-training/yoga/core-and-balance over a period of about a year has fundamentally changed my life in countless ways. I wouldn't even say you understand it once you start. I think understanding requires going for a while without injury, passing your noob gains phase, hitting a plateau and seeing results again. Especially for someone like me into "depth" in strategy games... you realize that the only limits are genetic & mental and the "skill curve" is infinite. Putting effort into training, eating or resting has largely supplanted my desire to play video games. NB: I had previously done a Starting Strength program a decade ago with a not-so-great coach. Coach was a dickhead and didn't discourage me from some really bad training habits that led me to get injured. Injury led to depression, weight gain and not getting back to training for a decade. Maybe that's on me but it's a serious regret and the approach I took to training this time around made all of the difference.

Melonotromo 2y ago

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neom 2y ago

Can relate to the hair growth thing, I've started to enter my "balding" era and I've been having a nervous breakdown. I never really cared about my looks before but the balding thing is really getting to me. Finasteride makes me depressed and minoxidil is so annoying, makes me feel less alone when I read a comment like yours, ha.

csa 2y ago
Highly recommend just shaving it all off. If that doesn’t work for whatever reason, then cutting it very short (a few mm) is the second best alternative. Trying to hide it is the worst. Stressing about it is a waste. I started shaving my head when I was about 25. I wish I had done it sooner. No haircuts, no hairstyling, no “bed hair”. I just shave my head when I shave my face, usually in the shower.
busterarm 2y ago
I lost all of my hair at 19 years old inside of about 3 high-stress months. From long hair to Stage 7 MPB. Too poor to medicate so I just had to deal with the new me. I don't even remember the experience of getting a haircut and what that's like. I encourage you to embrace it. Go skin bald. There's a lot of hidden benefits and really it's no big deal. All of the treatment options have huge downsides or look like shit.