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> AI converging with medical technology is a really dangerous space, for obvious reasons. An article like this does make me worry it's being rushed through, but

> AI converging with medical technology is a really dangerous space, for obvious reasons. An article like this does make me worry it's being rushed through, but not because of the author's objections, instead because of their ignorance of what is and what isn't AI I mean, worth pointing out that OpenAI has been shoving LLMs into people's faces for going on about a year and half now at global scale and calling it AI, to a degree that now we have to call AI AGI, and LLM's get called AI, even though there is nothing intelligent about them whatsoever. Just saying when the marketing for a tech is grinding the edge of being misinformation itself, it's pretty normal for the end users to end up pretty goddamn confused by the end.

bryanlarsen 2y ago
For 60 years the Turing Test was the standard benchmark for artificial intelligence. Now machines can pass the test. The only goalpost moving I can see is the moving done by the people who insist that LLM's aren't AI.
bitwize 2y ago
The simple state machines and decision trees that make enemies move and attack in video games, we also call AI. AI is a loose term and always has been. It's like the term "robot": we call any machine a robot which either a) resembles a human or part of one (e.g., a robotic arm), or b) can perform some significant human labor that involves decision making (e.g., a robot car that drives itself). Similarly, AI is anything that makes, or seems to make, judgements that we think of as the exclusive purview of humans. Decision trees used to be thought of as AI, but today they are not (except, again, in the context of video games where they're used to control agents intended to seem alive).
- ToucanLoucan 2y ago
  > The simple state machines and decision trees that make enemies move and attack in video games, we also call AI. Yes but no game companies have ever marketed their game asserting that the things your shooting are, in fact, self-aware conscious intelligences.
  - bitwize 2y ago
    Tell me you weren't around for the PlayStation 2 marketing blitz without telling me you weren't around for the PlayStation 2 marketing blitz. They actually named the thing's CPU the Emotion Engine.
PhasmaFelis 2y ago
That's been the technical definition in the AI research community for at least 50 years. "AI = machines that think like people" is the sci-fi definition.
- ToucanLoucan 2y ago
  Yes but OpenAI is flagrantly using the people's sci-fi defintion understanding to radically overvalue it's, to be blunt, utterly mid products.
- bluefirebrand 2y ago
  > AI = machines that think like people" is the sci-fi definition It's also the layman's definition Which does matter because laymen are the ones who are treating this current batch of AI as the silver bullet for all problems

bryanlarsen 2y ago

For 60 years the Turing Test was the standard benchmark for artificial intelligence. Now machines can pass the test. The only goalpost moving I can see is the moving done by the people who insist that LLM's aren't AI.

bitwize 2y ago

The simple state machines and decision trees that make enemies move and attack in video games, we also call AI. AI is a loose term and always has been. It's like the term "robot": we call any machine a robot which either a) resembles a human or part of one (e.g., a robotic arm), or b) can perform some significant human labor that involves decision making (e.g., a robot car that drives itself). Similarly, AI is anything that makes, or seems to make, judgements that we think of as the exclusive purview of humans. Decision trees used to be thought of as AI, but today they are not (except, again, in the context of video games where they're used to control agents intended to seem alive).

ToucanLoucan 2y ago
> The simple state machines and decision trees that make enemies move and attack in video games, we also call AI. Yes but no game companies have ever marketed their game asserting that the things your shooting are, in fact, self-aware conscious intelligences.
- bitwize 2y ago
  Tell me you weren't around for the PlayStation 2 marketing blitz without telling me you weren't around for the PlayStation 2 marketing blitz. They actually named the thing's CPU the Emotion Engine.

PhasmaFelis 2y ago

That's been the technical definition in the AI research community for at least 50 years. "AI = machines that think like people" is the sci-fi definition.

ToucanLoucan 2y ago
Yes but OpenAI is flagrantly using the people's sci-fi defintion understanding to radically overvalue it's, to be blunt, utterly mid products.
bluefirebrand 2y ago
> AI = machines that think like people" is the sci-fi definition It's also the layman's definition Which does matter because laymen are the ones who are treating this current batch of AI as the silver bullet for all problems