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>I think you’re being part of the problem. The problem is vilifying half the country — driving people apart instead of bringing us all together. In typical fas

by 0dayz 2y ago

>I think you’re being part of the problem. The problem is vilifying half the country — driving people apart instead of bringing us all together. In typical fashion victim blame those with concerns and never take on responsibility. >Those last two inflammatory conjectures in your comment are simply not true. It sure takes putting your head deep in the sand or doing a bunch of mental backflips to arrive at that conclusion. Just look at the blood that came out of Trump’s ear to easily refute that point as well as the second assassination attempt. The left was supposed to realize at those moments to tone down the rhetoric. But there’s a bunch of globalists that just want to see America burn. Of course it's inflammatory to you, you would rather rant about my comment than actually engage with it in good faith. Funny thing is both assassins was Republican voters, so much for the left boogieman. >I’m in the middle of it all. Not right or left. No party affiliation and I have more left leaning views than right views. I simply try to pick the best candidate each election, irrespective of the party. These parties have changed so much that they’re unrecognizable from what they used to be. It's always so interesting that so called "centrist" has to go out loudly proclaiming they are centrists, and yet every time they turns out not to be centrist what so ever. But yes I agree, republicans have lost all principles they once had and now even the conservatism that has been plaguing it is on the chopping block. >I recognize that the left is so terrified of someone shaking up their world view with the real truth that they lash out like a venomous snake afraid of the truth and god forbid actually seeing the other perspective. That pushes all of the moderates to the right side. The moderates and the independents decide all of the elections. Probably because we’re able to see through the smoke & mirrors and see the truth. You can recognize things and yet you cannot recognize "left's" concern, a real centrist would be able to understand the plight of both sides and yet here you are unable to do so. >The truth is you care more about not getting cancelled or hurt than you care about the country or the results of the election and for that reason, you’ll only make a good decision at the polls about half of the time. Like a broken clock that’s correct twice a day and incorrect all of the rest of the time. I care about my country something in this rant you haven't shown a single bit off, only that your emotions and feelings to be validated as you've said 0 principled ideas and instead things like "we know the TRUTH! I know what you feel and thus you are wrong!", you've probably done more straw men of me than the mental Olympics would allow for. >I’ll leave you with one main view, and if you forget everything else and remember this one thing, maybe you’ll have a chance at being a part of both parties one day. The right-leaning party of 2024, the big tent party, today, is just the party of the people that want the ability to perhaps have a family in the future — or already has a family. Period. Full stop. They perceive the self-loathing left as actively assaulting their work to put food on the table, keep a roof over their head, and give their kid an actual chance in this world to possibly eventually have a kid of his or her own. Stop vilifying those people. They feel bad for the left for being deeply brainwashed and mentally-manipulated by powers stronger than them. Republicans have been destroyed by the conservatives who now in turned have been destroyed by the maga cult, if you call that a big tent then I guess we could say that a clitoris is a big penis. Republicans feeling bad? where was the "feeling bad" when they mocked Nancy Pelosi's husband being almost murdered by a crazed maga cultist? Or how about when on a Trump rally just before election they said that everyone in the democratic party are degenerates every single one of them, what a wonderful compassion these republicans have. And Republicans want to you have families? Sure if you don't need IFV, if you're not gay or trans. >Why are all of the latest policies globalists first and Americans last? I don't care about conspiracies like """globalists""", I care about my country, charlatans and demagagues are far greater threat than your perceived reality of "globalists". >Why are all of the companies instituting mass layoffs? For different reasons, one of the big one being automation. >Should all of America have as much crime as Oakland, Chicago, New York City, L.A., and Portland? Right, you know that's not true? If we go by violent crime by capita it's all republican in the top 10: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_violent_crime_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territ... Only exception being California because of robbery, which surprise, surprise is because criminals around the country aren't stupid and will go where-ever the most rich people per capita live, aka. places you bought up. >How come today, the left is the party of war and the right the party of peace? >The left identifies with the Bushs and Cheneys while the right identifies with >the Kennedys. Oh cool, tell me which war is USA in right now? How many troops have we deployed to said place? The left is very much anti-war, they've been echoing every single talking point your side has done, it's the centrists are the ones who have said they want to support Ukraine in it's defense of the invading Russia. >Why didn’t we cut funding for further gain of function research after COVID-19 >after it escaped the formerly BSL2 lab at the wuhan institute of Virology? We never funded said laboratory and the lab leak theory has still not been proven. >What all was in The Twitter Files? Smoking weed and eating mcDonald's special: Nothingburger >What is the Deep State and why do we still have one? Government workers, so that our country can function. >Who was a threat to democracy? (in the Republic)? Do you remember >participating in any primary election? Republicans storming Jan 6, 2020. No please refresh me, what were I doing during the primaries? >Should America continue having large amounts of illegal immigration or should there be more legal immigration? We all know how Miami and Texas voted. Well how sad then that Trump ordered the republicans to kill that bipartisan most extreme bill to date, that would have tried to be the beginning of the long array of fixes needed to secure the border. >How come Detroit Michigan still has lead in their water and there are superfund sites all over America still? The only environmental policy the left today embraced is global warming. Because it's still reeling from the rust belt collapse? There's tons of conservationist and environmental policy but maybe my man/woman, maybe just maybeit's because global warming is an existential threat to us all. >How come the only freedoms being advocated for are the freedoms to turn gay, become trans, and then preorder your suicide pod from the next Dr. Kevorkian! But at least you can abort your kid and not need an ID when you vote! Lol I’m pro-choice but can you see how the masses would find these solutions to their problems… distasteful? So we shouldn't have the freedom to choose these things or what's the point here? I think the only retarded policy democrats have regarding trans-issues is trans athletes. >Are you really improving women’s lives by becoming the party of Islam? Or is that talk about women just propaganda and lip service? Lol, by that metric the Republicans IS the party of Islam with wanting to: * Ban abortion * Ban LGBT people * Limit women's rights such as voting * Teaming up with Muslims to enact these policy changes etc. etc. Are pro-Palestine flags virtue signaling or do they advocate Hitler-level genocide as their supporters chant “from the river to the sea” as they aim to wipe an entire group people off the map? I don't support Palestine, beyond that they should work together with Israel as it is in Bosnia. >Out of all of the things the left-leaning NPR can talk about, why did they give an “From to the river to the sea” advocate the microphone? Is NPR where we want our tax dollars to continue going to? Left-leaning in what way is publicly funded NPR left-leaning? Because they invited on 1 person who has crazy views? You should check into C-SPAN then. But again how very centrist of you, judging others. >There’s a reason the right is always more welcoming of the left than the left is of the right. >There is a reason the right, this election cycle, was willing to have those open debates and go on the most podcasts & talk shows and have the tough discussions. The campaign strategy of the Trump & Vance campaign was to go on so many podcasts that they were uncensorable by the legacy media. As we all know, their campaign strategy worked and people were able to hear both sides. A campaign running on emotions like “Joy” vs. a better economy that benefits all. Democrats have had their head in the sand when it comes to new media, that's about it, just like Republicans used to have their heads in the sand about cable TV being important. >If you want to learn more, don’t debate me. Listen to an episode of Tucker Carlson, Charlie Kirk, or David Sacks instead. I'll do whatever I want, and I sure as hell will not be listening to charlatans as you suggest. If you want to read about real conservatives here's a few names: * Emmanuel Mounier * Heinrich Pesch * Wilhelm Röpke * Hilaire Belloc Or if you prefer to read: https://www.amazon.com/-/en/Carlo-Invernizzi-Accetti/dp/1108421660 https://www.amazon.com/-/en/Carlo-Invernizzi-Accetti/dp/1108...

webninja 2y ago
Part 1: In the following 40,000 characters, I respond to every one your responses. At one point I even move back closer to the center again as you bring up a good consideration. Since it’s long, I had to divide it up into 3 or more replies to post it. >In typical fashion victim blame those with concerns and never take on responsibility. Bring up your chief concerns and let’s address them head on. I also want to get to know the basics of I’m talking to a little better. It’s not safe to assume on the internet that most people are in the USA or are from the USA. Many have outside interests that trump domestic interests. >But there’s a bunch of globalists that just want to see America burn. >Of course it's inflammatory to you, you would rather rant about my comment than actually engage with it in good faith. I doubt this is your chief concern but I’ll address it for you directly anyways. Most people don’t consider political drama to be a chief concern but I’ll address it anyways. I’ve never once heard of Republicans calling the democrats degenerate, but I’m sure it’s possible to get at least one person on either side to say anything. As a whole or from the people in power that can make the top-down decisions, that isn’t truthful. What is true is that Biden called all Americans on the right “Garbage” after a roast comedian Tony Hinchcliffe at the MSG NY Rally called Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage. TBH, it probably looked like that for a bit of time after so many large hurricanes reduced it this season but it wasn’t a good remark and he probably picked them to roast because they can’t vote. But it did show their commitment to free speech by having a gay man from Austin TX, where almost everyone is a democrat, who wouldn’t say who he was voting for when surrounded by MAGA supporters, which means he probably is a democrat, is quite a brave commitment to free speech. Either that, or the flop served well to take heat off of 20 or so others who weren’t comedians and were expressing real views. Anyways, it was far surpassed by the Biden comment though. > “really hate men" in what way do the democrats hate men. First of all some do; some don’t. Some hate themselves. Some hate others. Some don’t have a hateful bone in their body. There’s no blanket statement to be made. However there are some contemporary feminists who are really just man-haters who are quite loud and have been doing a large part of the speaking for the Democratic Party. The party thought it could win by pitting women vs men and winning on various identities while the right wanted to win with ideologies. Identities aren’t safe to debate or campaign on and not a debate I like having because effectively no one can change their identity so it ends in war or civil war. The contemporary feminists who hate all men, is simply not the kinds of people I want directing the party. Feminism accomplished everything it set out to achieve. Women can vote, drive, work, fight, and will win in most lawsuits against men. They’re outpacing men in early education and late education. They have lower suicide rates, and in the largest cities are beginning to outpace men. Men want to have a Father’s Day where the United Nations isn’t tweeting about how important mother’s are on the same day. Yes mother’s are important and Mother’s Day is important, but let men have their one day a year and women get theirs too. Equality for men and women. I don’t think a president being a man or being a woman is a good reason to vote for one or the other. Saying all men suck so I want a female president, is… do I really have to point out the obvious flaws in that? There’s so much more that should go into the decision that that shouldn’t even be part of the decision tree. What contemporary feminism really is, is successfully convincing all of your fellow women to exit the dating pool, so that you have less female competition and get to have all of the good men to yourself. Many women don’t realize this but are also not surprised by the cattyness and not-uncommon back-stabbing. Men more often just say it as it is. Some globalists love this because they don’t want to see Americans having families and birthing a little baby carbon breathers anyways. If it was really about carbon, they would’ve banned all private jet travel yesterday. Some self-loathing 40yr old childless cat ladies love this because it massages the part of their brain that seeks validation for past decisions. There’s nothing wrong with a decision to not have a family, but there’s an old saying that “Lord, if you can’t make me skinny then make all of my friends fat.” Some people get duped into thinking that others are acting in their own best interest, when in fact many time’s it’s not. I’m simply advocating for healthy skepticism with many of these -isms. Nearly all -isms are BS. Just like racism isn’t something people should support either. Next, I know you may make an outdated comment on racism but the MAGA big tent party won and *Trump won the African-Americans vote by the highest percentage that any Republican has won in USA history before — even against a candidate who proclaimed to be black, adopted a black accent at her rally’s, and chose to start her campaign by going on Charlamagne tha God’s show and spend their campaign dollars on having Megan Thee Stallion twerk on the DNC stage. The party that said we care so much about the black vote that you don’t have to have an ID when you vote because apparently they proclaim voter id laws are racist. Not only is it patronizing but it shows they’re so out of touch that it makes you wonder if they’ve ever met an African American person before — let alone anyone on the right side in-person ever since work from home began after Covid. Voter ID laws simply keep the same person from voting twice or more under various names. California even went as far as banning poll workers for asking voters for a ID when voting. But it can be hard to see if all you watch is far-left media stations like MSNBC, ABC and CNN or anything out of the UK or Canada where citizens do not have and cannot exercise freedom of speech. Freedom of speech: use it or lose it. One day, you just might need it!! Back on topic, MAGA won on ideological discussions instead of race-baiting, gender-baiting, or shoving identity politics down our throats which the media apparently wanted. They tried divide and conquer Americans but the American people clearly wanted a return to a meritocracy, a return to normalcy, a return to joint prosperity, and a better future & economy for all genders and races. The way for us to sail happily through the next 4 years is to turn off the media for 4 years, including to some degree HN, while they try to sow headlines that make it sound like the sky is falling and they claim there’s widespread chaos descending everywhere again when really there’s not. On a personal note, it’s quite a nice feeling to be optimistic about the future and hopeful about our government for once in our lifetime. The debt was growing at an unsustainable rate and interest on our debt had become higher than our entire defence budget. Lina Khan, Janet Yellen, Gary Gensler, Alejandro Mayorkas, Mike Pompeo (the wolf in sheep’s clothing), and others all needed to be fired yesterday and it sure didn’t look like the current administration, sleepwalking through the cockpit, was headed to fire any of them. That’s probably my chief issue.

by 0dayz 2y ago

webninja 2y ago

Part 1: In the following 40,000 characters, I respond to every one your responses. At one point I even move back closer to the center again as you bring up a good consideration. Since it’s long, I had to divide it up into 3 or more replies to post it. >In typical fashion victim blame those with concerns and never take on responsibility. Bring up your chief concerns and let’s address them head on. I also want to get to know the basics of I’m talking to a little better. It’s not safe to assume on the internet that most people are in the USA or are from the USA. Many have outside interests that trump domestic interests. >But there’s a bunch of globalists that just want to see America burn. >Of course it's inflammatory to you, you would rather rant about my comment than actually engage with it in good faith. I doubt this is your chief concern but I’ll address it for you directly anyways. Most people don’t consider political drama to be a chief concern but I’ll address it anyways. I’ve never once heard of Republicans calling the democrats degenerate, but I’m sure it’s possible to get at least one person on either side to say anything. As a whole or from the people in power that can make the top-down decisions, that isn’t truthful. What is true is that Biden called all Americans on the right “Garbage” after a roast comedian Tony Hinchcliffe at the MSG NY Rally called Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage. TBH, it probably looked like that for a bit of time after so many large hurricanes reduced it this season but it wasn’t a good remark and he probably picked them to roast because they can’t vote. But it did show their commitment to free speech by having a gay man from Austin TX, where almost everyone is a democrat, who wouldn’t say who he was voting for when surrounded by MAGA supporters, which means he probably is a democrat, is quite a brave commitment to free speech. Either that, or the flop served well to take heat off of 20 or so others who weren’t comedians and were expressing real views. Anyways, it was far surpassed by the Biden comment though. > “really hate men" in what way do the democrats hate men. First of all some do; some don’t. Some hate themselves. Some hate others. Some don’t have a hateful bone in their body. There’s no blanket statement to be made. However there are some contemporary feminists who are really just man-haters who are quite loud and have been doing a large part of the speaking for the Democratic Party. The party thought it could win by pitting women vs men and winning on various identities while the right wanted to win with ideologies. Identities aren’t safe to debate or campaign on and not a debate I like having because effectively no one can change their identity so it ends in war or civil war. The contemporary feminists who hate all men, is simply not the kinds of people I want directing the party. Feminism accomplished everything it set out to achieve. Women can vote, drive, work, fight, and will win in most lawsuits against men. They’re outpacing men in early education and late education. They have lower suicide rates, and in the largest cities are beginning to outpace men. Men want to have a Father’s Day where the United Nations isn’t tweeting about how important mother’s are on the same day. Yes mother’s are important and Mother’s Day is important, but let men have their one day a year and women get theirs too. Equality for men and women. I don’t think a president being a man or being a woman is a good reason to vote for one or the other. Saying all men suck so I want a female president, is… do I really have to point out the obvious flaws in that? There’s so much more that should go into the decision that that shouldn’t even be part of the decision tree. What contemporary feminism really is, is successfully convincing all of your fellow women to exit the dating pool, so that you have less female competition and get to have all of the good men to yourself. Many women don’t realize this but are also not surprised by the cattyness and not-uncommon back-stabbing. Men more often just say it as it is. Some globalists love this because they don’t want to see Americans having families and birthing a little baby carbon breathers anyways. If it was really about carbon, they would’ve banned all private jet travel yesterday. Some self-loathing 40yr old childless cat ladies love this because it massages the part of their brain that seeks validation for past decisions. There’s nothing wrong with a decision to not have a family, but there’s an old saying that “Lord, if you can’t make me skinny then make all of my friends fat.” Some people get duped into thinking that others are acting in their own best interest, when in fact many time’s it’s not. I’m simply advocating for healthy skepticism with many of these -isms. Nearly all -isms are BS. Just like racism isn’t something people should support either. Next, I know you may make an outdated comment on racism but the MAGA big tent party won and *Trump won the African-Americans vote by the highest percentage that any Republican has won in USA history before — even against a candidate who proclaimed to be black, adopted a black accent at her rally’s, and chose to start her campaign by going on Charlamagne tha God’s show and spend their campaign dollars on having Megan Thee Stallion twerk on the DNC stage. The party that said we care so much about the black vote that you don’t have to have an ID when you vote because apparently they proclaim voter id laws are racist. Not only is it patronizing but it shows they’re so out of touch that it makes you wonder if they’ve ever met an African American person before — let alone anyone on the right side in-person ever since work from home began after Covid. Voter ID laws simply keep the same person from voting twice or more under various names. California even went as far as banning poll workers for asking voters for a ID when voting. But it can be hard to see if all you watch is far-left media stations like MSNBC, ABC and CNN or anything out of the UK or Canada where citizens do not have and cannot exercise freedom of speech. Freedom of speech: use it or lose it. One day, you just might need it!! Back on topic, MAGA won on ideological discussions instead of race-baiting, gender-baiting, or shoving identity politics down our throats which the media apparently wanted. They tried divide and conquer Americans but the American people clearly wanted a return to a meritocracy, a return to normalcy, a return to joint prosperity, and a better future & economy for all genders and races. The way for us to sail happily through the next 4 years is to turn off the media for 4 years, including to some degree HN, while they try to sow headlines that make it sound like the sky is falling and they claim there’s widespread chaos descending everywhere again when really there’s not. On a personal note, it’s quite a nice feeling to be optimistic about the future and hopeful about our government for once in our lifetime. The debt was growing at an unsustainable rate and interest on our debt had become higher than our entire defence budget. Lina Khan, Janet Yellen, Gary Gensler, Alejandro Mayorkas, Mike Pompeo (the wolf in sheep’s clothing), and others all needed to be fired yesterday and it sure didn’t look like the current administration, sleepwalking through the cockpit, was headed to fire any of them. That’s probably my chief issue.