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increase in price of eggs is absolutely bonkers

llamaimperative 2y ago
I wonder if there was some sort of decades long concentration of the egg market into an obscenely small number of producers, making the egg supply vulnerable to supply shocks, and then there such a supply shock materialized (like avian flu?) (There was)
alsobrsp 2y ago
We get our eggs from a specialty butcher, their meat prices are rather high. Their organic, locally sourced eggs are a good $4 cheaper than the big box groceries regular eggs. I was quite surprised.
edflsafoiewq 2y ago
Price of eggs is because of bird flu outbreaks. It's really its own thing, independent of other groceries.
stonesthrowaway 2y ago
How can a dozen eggs go from $2 one week to $4 the next? I don't remember egg prices being this volatile growing up. It's only in the past decade where prices jump wildly. It's third world shenanigans.
- llamaimperative 2y ago
  No no, there's nothing third-world about ultra-concentrated (both in market share and in physical location) meat production. That's a first world capitalist's wet dream! Has consequences though. Like extreme vulnerability to pathogens. https://www.perplexity.ai/search/why-have-egg-prices-been-so-vo-X9VFnPIyRm6ywXHxXEwCQw https://www.perplexity.ai/search/why-have-egg-prices-been-so...
- dleary 2y ago
  It's simple supply and demand. You can't lose 100M out of the total 310M chickens in the USA and not have economic shocks. Were you unaware of the bird flu outbreak killing 1/3 of the chickens in the US? This information is easily available to anyone who types "why are the prices of eggs so high?" into your search engine of choice. "Normal people" can be forgiven for not investigating and fact-checking every statement that they run across. That is exhausting. But people who call themselves "journalists" really cannot be forgiven for spreading lies and disinformation about something that is so easily verifiable. If you are intentionally muddying the waters or spreading disinformation, well then, shame on you. But it's much more likely that you have been deceived by the systems that you trust to deliver you information. Ask yourself, what motives exist for them to deceive you? Why would they talk so much about how the price of eggs has skyrocketed, without even addressing this obvious explanation? Even if they don't agree with this reporting, isn't it strange that they don't bring it up, even if it's just to talk about why this widely-reported explanation is itself misinformation? How much contempt must they hold for you, that they think they can treat you this way? ========= "Nearly 1 million chickens infected with bird flu in Minnesota to be killed, per USDA" https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/11/08/chickens-infected-bird-flu-minnesota-killed-usda/71501169007/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/11/08/chicke... ========= "The largest fresh egg producer in the U.S. has found bird flu in chickens at a Texas plant. Cal-Maine Foods, Inc. said that approximately 1.6 million laying hens were destroyed after the infection was found at a facility in Parmer County, Texas." https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/largest-fresh-egg-producer-us-found-bird-flu-chickens-texas-plant-rcna146169 https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/largest-fresh-e... ========= "Overall, 92.34 million birds have been killed since the outbreak began in 2022, according to the U.S. Agriculture Department." "Crews are in the process of killing 4.2 million chickens after the disease was found at a farm in Sioux County, Iowa" https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/farmers-must-kill-42m-chickens-bird-flu-hits-iowa-egg-farm-rcna154424 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/farmers-must-kill-42m-c...
  - stonesthrowaway 2y ago
    > If you are intentionally muddying the waters or spreading disinformation, well then, shame on you. Shame on you then. From Nov 2023 "https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/11/08/chicke https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/11/08/chicke..." From April 2024 https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/largest-fresh-egg-producer-us-found-bird-flu-chickens-texas-plant-rcna146169 https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/largest-fresh-e... From May 2024 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/farmers-must-kill-42m-c https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/farmers-must-kill-42m-c... I'm well aware of the prices increases over the summer. But in october, I noticed the price drop to the $2 range. And then all of a sudden, the price increased to $4 the past week. Which would have NOTHING to do with your links. I may be mistaken, but your wall of text describes you. Are you a journalist, or a laid off journalist, by any chance?

I wonder if there was some sort of decades long concentration of the egg market into an obscenely small number of producers, making the egg supply vulnerable to supply shocks, and then there such a supply shock materialized (like avian flu?) (There was)

alsobrsp 2y ago

We get our eggs from a specialty butcher, their meat prices are rather high. Their organic, locally sourced eggs are a good $4 cheaper than the big box groceries regular eggs. I was quite surprised.

edflsafoiewq 2y ago

Price of eggs is because of bird flu outbreaks. It's really its own thing, independent of other groceries.

stonesthrowaway 2y ago

How can a dozen eggs go from $2 one week to $4 the next? I don't remember egg prices being this volatile growing up. It's only in the past decade where prices jump wildly. It's third world shenanigans.

llamaimperative 2y ago
No no, there's nothing third-world about ultra-concentrated (both in market share and in physical location) meat production. That's a first world capitalist's wet dream! Has consequences though. Like extreme vulnerability to pathogens. https://www.perplexity.ai/search/why-have-egg-prices-been-so-vo-X9VFnPIyRm6ywXHxXEwCQw https://www.perplexity.ai/search/why-have-egg-prices-been-so...
dleary 2y ago
It's simple supply and demand. You can't lose 100M out of the total 310M chickens in the USA and not have economic shocks. Were you unaware of the bird flu outbreak killing 1/3 of the chickens in the US? This information is easily available to anyone who types "why are the prices of eggs so high?" into your search engine of choice. "Normal people" can be forgiven for not investigating and fact-checking every statement that they run across. That is exhausting. But people who call themselves "journalists" really cannot be forgiven for spreading lies and disinformation about something that is so easily verifiable. If you are intentionally muddying the waters or spreading disinformation, well then, shame on you. But it's much more likely that you have been deceived by the systems that you trust to deliver you information. Ask yourself, what motives exist for them to deceive you? Why would they talk so much about how the price of eggs has skyrocketed, without even addressing this obvious explanation? Even if they don't agree with this reporting, isn't it strange that they don't bring it up, even if it's just to talk about why this widely-reported explanation is itself misinformation? How much contempt must they hold for you, that they think they can treat you this way? ========= "Nearly 1 million chickens infected with bird flu in Minnesota to be killed, per USDA" https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/11/08/chickens-infected-bird-flu-minnesota-killed-usda/71501169007/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/11/08/chicke... ========= "The largest fresh egg producer in the U.S. has found bird flu in chickens at a Texas plant. Cal-Maine Foods, Inc. said that approximately 1.6 million laying hens were destroyed after the infection was found at a facility in Parmer County, Texas." https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/largest-fresh-egg-producer-us-found-bird-flu-chickens-texas-plant-rcna146169 https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/largest-fresh-e... ========= "Overall, 92.34 million birds have been killed since the outbreak began in 2022, according to the U.S. Agriculture Department." "Crews are in the process of killing 4.2 million chickens after the disease was found at a farm in Sioux County, Iowa" https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/farmers-must-kill-42m-chickens-bird-flu-hits-iowa-egg-farm-rcna154424 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/farmers-must-kill-42m-c...
- stonesthrowaway 2y ago
  > If you are intentionally muddying the waters or spreading disinformation, well then, shame on you. Shame on you then. From Nov 2023 "https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/11/08/chicke https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/11/08/chicke..." From April 2024 https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/largest-fresh-egg-producer-us-found-bird-flu-chickens-texas-plant-rcna146169 https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/largest-fresh-e... From May 2024 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/farmers-must-kill-42m-c https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/farmers-must-kill-42m-c... I'm well aware of the prices increases over the summer. But in october, I noticed the price drop to the $2 range. And then all of a sudden, the price increased to $4 the past week. Which would have NOTHING to do with your links. I may be mistaken, but your wall of text describes you. Are you a journalist, or a laid off journalist, by any chance?