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> stop violence by radical leftists on election day Yes, because, historically, leftists get incredibly violent on election day. Also this is not ALL he said.

> stop violence by radical leftists on election day Yes, because, historically, leftists get incredibly violent on election day. Also this is not ALL he said. He has pledged to recall thousands of American soldiers overseas and station them at the US border. Trump has plans for a mass deportation, affecting millions of Americans, many citizens. Perhaps you were ignorant of this fact, for which I forgive you. But you are ignorant no longer, so next time I will be forced to believe you are intentionally deceptive.

foxglacier 2y ago
> Yes, because, historically, leftists get incredibly violent on election day. It doesn't matter. You misinterpreted his words with the intention of making it look like something it wasn't. You're either malicious or readily fooled by misinformation. Either way, it means everything you say on the topic is worthless.
- consteval 2y ago
  And you completely ignored the rest of my comment, where I specified that not all Trump has said he will do with the military. I'm paraphrasing Trump and his own ideology and policy. If that offends you, feel free to vote for someone who better matches your ideology. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Meaning, you can't support Trump and simultaneously say he's lying, or he's just joking, or he's not really going to do that. You voted with the intention and belief he IS going to do that. Who the fuck votes for someone under the pretenses they hope their policies fall through or are blocked? That makes zero sense. Trump supporters have entered an era of such supreme shame that even telling them Trump's plans is "misinformation". I can't even ask Trump supporters for his policies, because they won't dare repeat them. I mean, it's absolutely crazy. I have to either listen to Trump directly or ask leftists, because Trump supporters are "know nothing" dishonest people. I don't know, does that not concern you? That you won't even utter the policy and speech of the guy you voted for? Do you think that's normal? You should be very concerned about that. You should better understand what, and who, you're voting for.
  - foxglacier 2y ago
    His actual words show that your interpretation is wrong. Why do you still believe it? The extra information you added doesn't add any support your claim at all. Using the military to protect the border in no way means "use the military domestically to retain power and clean out the US". Could you identify one of these too-objectionable-to-say policies of his, including the source of that information? History tells me that it will be your misunderstanding that's made it seem objectionable. > hope their policies fall through or are blocked? That makes zero sense. It makes sense if you're voting for practical outcomes instead of ideologically. For example, if they promise one thing you want and is achievable, plus one thing you don't want but is impossible anyway, then it can be rational to vote for them to get the thing you want and also not get the thing you don't want.
    - consteval 2y ago
      > Using the military to protect the border in no way means "use the military domestically to retain power and clean out the US". Let me break this down: The military would be deployed domestically, to clean out immigrants and some citizens. Remember, both Trump and Tom Homan have alluded to deporting naturalized citizens. So how does it not mean that? Even if you disagree, can you see how and why I am making that claim and how it's logically consistent with what Trump has said. > For example, if they promise one thing you want and is achievable, plus one thing you don't want but is impossible anyway, then it can be rational to vote for them to get the thing you want and also not get the thing you don't want. You're working under the assumption the impossible cannot be made possible. The left claims that Trump has his eyes on a dictatorship because of this difference between the left and right. The left believes Trump when he says you won't need to vote anymore and they believe Project 2025. The right thinks Trump is a liar. I'm not saying the US will be a dictatorship. But, if you actually look at Project 2025, which will be and already is the template for the Trump presidency, it is very shocking. Trump supporters have so far been able to employ plausible deniability. Now that Trump has made it clear he will dissolve the department of education and he has already committed to appointing many Project 2025 writers to his administration, the plausible deniability is gone. If you're hoping the left steps in to stop a lot of Trump's policies, you shouldn't have voted for him.

foxglacier 2y ago

> Yes, because, historically, leftists get incredibly violent on election day. It doesn't matter. You misinterpreted his words with the intention of making it look like something it wasn't. You're either malicious or readily fooled by misinformation. Either way, it means everything you say on the topic is worthless.

consteval 2y ago
And you completely ignored the rest of my comment, where I specified that not all Trump has said he will do with the military. I'm paraphrasing Trump and his own ideology and policy. If that offends you, feel free to vote for someone who better matches your ideology. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Meaning, you can't support Trump and simultaneously say he's lying, or he's just joking, or he's not really going to do that. You voted with the intention and belief he IS going to do that. Who the fuck votes for someone under the pretenses they hope their policies fall through or are blocked? That makes zero sense. Trump supporters have entered an era of such supreme shame that even telling them Trump's plans is "misinformation". I can't even ask Trump supporters for his policies, because they won't dare repeat them. I mean, it's absolutely crazy. I have to either listen to Trump directly or ask leftists, because Trump supporters are "know nothing" dishonest people. I don't know, does that not concern you? That you won't even utter the policy and speech of the guy you voted for? Do you think that's normal? You should be very concerned about that. You should better understand what, and who, you're voting for.
- foxglacier 2y ago
  His actual words show that your interpretation is wrong. Why do you still believe it? The extra information you added doesn't add any support your claim at all. Using the military to protect the border in no way means "use the military domestically to retain power and clean out the US". Could you identify one of these too-objectionable-to-say policies of his, including the source of that information? History tells me that it will be your misunderstanding that's made it seem objectionable. > hope their policies fall through or are blocked? That makes zero sense. It makes sense if you're voting for practical outcomes instead of ideologically. For example, if they promise one thing you want and is achievable, plus one thing you don't want but is impossible anyway, then it can be rational to vote for them to get the thing you want and also not get the thing you don't want.
  - consteval 2y ago
    > Using the military to protect the border in no way means "use the military domestically to retain power and clean out the US". Let me break this down: The military would be deployed domestically, to clean out immigrants and some citizens. Remember, both Trump and Tom Homan have alluded to deporting naturalized citizens. So how does it not mean that? Even if you disagree, can you see how and why I am making that claim and how it's logically consistent with what Trump has said. > For example, if they promise one thing you want and is achievable, plus one thing you don't want but is impossible anyway, then it can be rational to vote for them to get the thing you want and also not get the thing you don't want. You're working under the assumption the impossible cannot be made possible. The left claims that Trump has his eyes on a dictatorship because of this difference between the left and right. The left believes Trump when he says you won't need to vote anymore and they believe Project 2025. The right thinks Trump is a liar. I'm not saying the US will be a dictatorship. But, if you actually look at Project 2025, which will be and already is the template for the Trump presidency, it is very shocking. Trump supporters have so far been able to employ plausible deniability. Now that Trump has made it clear he will dissolve the department of education and he has already committed to appointing many Project 2025 writers to his administration, the plausible deniability is gone. If you're hoping the left steps in to stop a lot of Trump's policies, you shouldn't have voted for him.