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I am using VirtualBox. Who will be happy about this? Server Hosting providers?

by onoke 2y ago

weikju 2y ago
Server hosts are already using vsphere or some other products. The produced being made free are intended for desktop usage.
- burnt-resistor 2y ago
  No, VPSes use Xen and KVM because VMware is too damn expensive for anything but corporate IT workloads.
  - fragmede 2y ago
    post-broadcom acquisition, it too expensive even for that!
    - burnt-resistor 2y ago
      It's the complacency trap many FOSS and non-FOSS legacy products fall into when corporate bureaucracy dominates while failing to realize their policies and practices are counterproductive. CFEngine2->3, SugarCRM, Mongo, Couchbase, any CA or IBM product
  - MrDrMcCoy 2y ago
    That, or OpenStack. I know it's a bigger deal for telcos and wraps kvm, but it's very reliable, scalable, and has all the features a hosting provider would need.
    - burnt-resistor 2y ago
      OpenStack isn't a hypervisor! It's a system to emulate AWS locally that requires a hypervisor to present multiple system images.
      - MrDrMcCoy 2y ago
        You're right that it's not a hypervisor, but it's not an AWS emulator either. It's a collection of tightly coupled management layers for other open source projects that form a new, cohesive whole that can be competitive with AWS at a medium scale.
  - weikju 2y ago
    > "or other products" I didn't feel like making a complete overview of the whole landscape, since this news is about VMware workstation in specific. Therefore any VMWare product in use by server hosts would in all likelihood not be VMWare Workstation/Fusion.
    - burnt-resistor 2y ago
      You didn't list anything substantive because you don't understand the landscape, so you used weasel words.
      - weikju 2y ago
        Aside from your personal attack, this is besides the point, as this is about a desktop product not a server product, which is the important difference that had to be noted in response to the post I was replying to. Please refrain from personal attacks on this forum, it's one of the last nice places on the Internet. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
self_awareness 2y ago
> I am using VirtualBox. Who will be happy about this? Server Hosting providers? One group would be macOS users who want to virtualize ARM64.

I am using VirtualBox. Who will be happy about this? Server Hosting providers?

by onoke 2y ago

I am using VirtualBox. Who will be happy about this? Server Hosting providers?

Server hosts are already using vsphere or some other products. The produced being made free are intended for desktop usage.

burnt-resistor 2y ago
No, VPSes use Xen and KVM because VMware is too damn expensive for anything but corporate IT workloads.
- fragmede 2y ago
  post-broadcom acquisition, it too expensive even for that!
  - burnt-resistor 2y ago
    It's the complacency trap many FOSS and non-FOSS legacy products fall into when corporate bureaucracy dominates while failing to realize their policies and practices are counterproductive. CFEngine2->3, SugarCRM, Mongo, Couchbase, any CA or IBM product
- MrDrMcCoy 2y ago
  That, or OpenStack. I know it's a bigger deal for telcos and wraps kvm, but it's very reliable, scalable, and has all the features a hosting provider would need.
  - burnt-resistor 2y ago
    OpenStack isn't a hypervisor! It's a system to emulate AWS locally that requires a hypervisor to present multiple system images.
    - MrDrMcCoy 2y ago
      You're right that it's not a hypervisor, but it's not an AWS emulator either. It's a collection of tightly coupled management layers for other open source projects that form a new, cohesive whole that can be competitive with AWS at a medium scale.
- weikju 2y ago
  > "or other products" I didn't feel like making a complete overview of the whole landscape, since this news is about VMware workstation in specific. Therefore any VMWare product in use by server hosts would in all likelihood not be VMWare Workstation/Fusion.
  - burnt-resistor 2y ago
    You didn't list anything substantive because you don't understand the landscape, so you used weasel words.
    - weikju 2y ago
      Aside from your personal attack, this is besides the point, as this is about a desktop product not a server product, which is the important difference that had to be noted in response to the post I was replying to. Please refrain from personal attacks on this forum, it's one of the last nice places on the Internet. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

self_awareness 2y ago

> I am using VirtualBox. Who will be happy about this? Server Hosting providers? One group would be macOS users who want to virtualize ARM64.