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One of the largest Godot projects is transitioning off of Godot

philipwhiuk 2y ago
1. Why would you run Godot on the back-end.. Seems kinda crazy. 2. Writing your own HTTP Promise library seems insane. Whatever language you're using there must be one already.
- recursive 2y ago
  1. Maybe validating that client actions are legal?
  - jared_mccluskey 2y ago
    Yep, we made it server-authoritative intentionally for physics-based games and to prevent cheating
- jared_mccluskey 2y ago
  > Why would you run Godot on the back-end.. Seems kinda crazy. Game server - there's still a separate NestJS backend for the web. The code is here: https://github.com/the-mirror-gdp/the-mirror https://github.com/the-mirror-gdp/the-mirror > Writing your own HTTP Promise library seems insane. Whatever language you're using there must be one already. Yes exactly, that's what we assumed
greatgib 2y ago
Looks weird to do a "youtube" video about it. Looks like a desperately needing attention marketing stunt.
- souixuy 2y ago
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- jared_mccluskey 2y ago
  Tone is lost over text posts; it's the closest you can get to having a conversation with someone.
  - miffy900 2y ago
    True, but I don't think loss of tone would've mattered much here; almost all of the content of the video itself seems deliberately overwritten; it could be condensed to a tweet or post less than 100 words.
    - jared_mccluskey 2y ago
      We've been deeply involved with the Godot community since we started 3 years ago. It wouldn't be right to just write a text post. That'd be too flippant and I think it does right by the community to give more of an in-depth explanation.
resoluteteeth 2y ago
This appears to be a sandbox game / engine, which probably has a lot less reason to use an existing engine like godot than a normal game since it would probably end up duplicating a lot of the development tools provided by something like godot anyway. It also appears to be in pretty early development. So, even if it's a big project I'm not sure it's notable in the same way it would be if a major commercial game that had already been released using godot was switching off it of for some reason?
- jared_mccluskey 2y ago
  We raised over $2.3M to build on Godot and had over 20 developers building on it at one point. https://venturebeat.com/games/the-mirror-raises-2-3m-pre-seed-funding-indie-game-development-3d-model/ https://venturebeat.com/games/the-mirror-raises-2-3m-pre-see...
bhouston 2y ago
I am not sure it is one of the largest projects. The reddit subgroup has 300 members: https://www.reddit.com/r/themirrorspace/ https://www.reddit.com/r/themirrorspace/ The YouTube channel has 700 subscribers: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMirrorEngine https://www.youtube.com/@TheMirrorEngine This doesn't come across as that big of a project in terms of user base. For example, this Godot-based game on Steam has 12K reviews. It is definitely much bigger than The Mirror: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1637320/Dome_Keeper/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1637320/Dome_Keeper/ And another with 24K reviews: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2218750/Halls_of_Torment/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/2218750/Halls_of_Torment/ (Also is the guy in the video okay? His eyes are really red.)
- jared_mccluskey 2y ago
  I've been pulling some all nighters for getting our V2 across the line :) Size-wise, we had over 20 developers working on it at one point and we raised over $2.3M to build on Godot, so I do believe it's one of the largest by team size. https://venturebeat.com/games/the-mirror-raises-2-3m-pre-seed-funding-indie-game-development-3d-model/ https://venturebeat.com/games/the-mirror-raises-2-3m-pre-see...
- Quarrel 2y ago
  Brotato (yes, Godot) has ~80,000 reviews on steam (Overwhelmingly Positive) and ~25,000 subs on their subreddit. I think you're correct that this isn't remotely one of the larger based on this style of metric.
  - jared_mccluskey 2y ago
    *Largest by team size and funding
jitl 2y ago
Moving from Godot to what? Sign up for our Discord to find out first! That makes the video feel like clickbait. Yeesh.
- jared_mccluskey 2y ago
  I know it sounds like a marketing push but there's a very specific reason behind it. No need to join the Discord if you don't want to; we'll fully announce eventually.
Saphyel 2y ago
I think everyone is moving away from Godot since the scandal, so make sense
- krapp 2y ago
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1. Why would you run Godot on the back-end.. Seems kinda crazy. 2. Writing your own HTTP Promise library seems insane. Whatever language you're using there must be one already.

recursive 2y ago
1. Maybe validating that client actions are legal?
- jared_mccluskey 2y ago
  Yep, we made it server-authoritative intentionally for physics-based games and to prevent cheating
jared_mccluskey 2y ago
> Why would you run Godot on the back-end.. Seems kinda crazy. Game server - there's still a separate NestJS backend for the web. The code is here: https://github.com/the-mirror-gdp/the-mirror https://github.com/the-mirror-gdp/the-mirror > Writing your own HTTP Promise library seems insane. Whatever language you're using there must be one already. Yes exactly, that's what we assumed

greatgib 2y ago

Looks weird to do a "youtube" video about it. Looks like a desperately needing attention marketing stunt.

souixuy 2y ago
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jared_mccluskey 2y ago
Tone is lost over text posts; it's the closest you can get to having a conversation with someone.
- miffy900 2y ago
  True, but I don't think loss of tone would've mattered much here; almost all of the content of the video itself seems deliberately overwritten; it could be condensed to a tweet or post less than 100 words.
  - jared_mccluskey 2y ago
    We've been deeply involved with the Godot community since we started 3 years ago. It wouldn't be right to just write a text post. That'd be too flippant and I think it does right by the community to give more of an in-depth explanation.

resoluteteeth 2y ago

This appears to be a sandbox game / engine, which probably has a lot less reason to use an existing engine like godot than a normal game since it would probably end up duplicating a lot of the development tools provided by something like godot anyway. It also appears to be in pretty early development. So, even if it's a big project I'm not sure it's notable in the same way it would be if a major commercial game that had already been released using godot was switching off it of for some reason?

jared_mccluskey 2y ago
We raised over $2.3M to build on Godot and had over 20 developers building on it at one point. https://venturebeat.com/games/the-mirror-raises-2-3m-pre-seed-funding-indie-game-development-3d-model/ https://venturebeat.com/games/the-mirror-raises-2-3m-pre-see...

bhouston 2y ago

I am not sure it is one of the largest projects. The reddit subgroup has 300 members: https://www.reddit.com/r/themirrorspace/ https://www.reddit.com/r/themirrorspace/ The YouTube channel has 700 subscribers: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMirrorEngine https://www.youtube.com/@TheMirrorEngine This doesn't come across as that big of a project in terms of user base. For example, this Godot-based game on Steam has 12K reviews. It is definitely much bigger than The Mirror: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1637320/Dome_Keeper/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1637320/Dome_Keeper/ And another with 24K reviews: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2218750/Halls_of_Torment/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/2218750/Halls_of_Torment/ (Also is the guy in the video okay? His eyes are really red.)

jared_mccluskey 2y ago
I've been pulling some all nighters for getting our V2 across the line :) Size-wise, we had over 20 developers working on it at one point and we raised over $2.3M to build on Godot, so I do believe it's one of the largest by team size. https://venturebeat.com/games/the-mirror-raises-2-3m-pre-seed-funding-indie-game-development-3d-model/ https://venturebeat.com/games/the-mirror-raises-2-3m-pre-see...
Quarrel 2y ago
Brotato (yes, Godot) has ~80,000 reviews on steam (Overwhelmingly Positive) and ~25,000 subs on their subreddit. I think you're correct that this isn't remotely one of the larger based on this style of metric.
- jared_mccluskey 2y ago
  *Largest by team size and funding

jitl 2y ago

Moving from Godot to what? Sign up for our Discord to find out first! That makes the video feel like clickbait. Yeesh.

jared_mccluskey 2y ago
I know it sounds like a marketing push but there's a very specific reason behind it. No need to join the Discord if you don't want to; we'll fully announce eventually.

Saphyel 2y ago

I think everyone is moving away from Godot since the scandal, so make sense

krapp 2y ago
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