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2: It's all fuzzy. Don't expect to ask for something in the prompt and hear it immediately; sometimes it happens but quite often it needs a few generations, so

2: It's all fuzzy. Don't expect to ask for something in the prompt and hear it immediately; sometimes it happens but quite often it needs a few generations, so don't give up and be prepared to a nice surprise after multiple retries. This applies to everything, lyrics included; sometimes it sings the wrong parts, mixed up lines, words, or doesn't sing them at all, and sometimes it blends up words in strange new languages; that is also part of the fun, but can cost money. 2b: Hallucinations. They happen in the above form, or as bad sound quality (see below). If words are misspelled they can be corrected by the replace section function, however if as a result of hallucination say it sang a verse twice, deleting the unwanted one becomes hard because the AI now lost sync between music and lyrics, and when you attempt to correct that part it could operate at the wrong position. In such eventuality it's probably quicker and cheaper to extend the song from a point before the hallucination, so that everything onwards is overwritten, including the hallucination. Luckily however the function to replace a part costs credits only after confirming it, therefore one can retry indefinitely at no cost until the correct piece is generated then confirmed. 3: Sound quality - This varies from quite good to really nasty, and so far there's almost nothing that can be done to correct a bad sounding track or section : sometimes a song is heavily distorted (digital distortion, not like simple clipping), and quite often making a cover will generate another bad sounding track. Substituting sections doesn't always work. Another very annoying bug is the tendency to raise the volume of vocals and music with time, and that has nothing to do with different emphasis or changing anything in the way it sings, it just becomes louder and louder with time, usually after the 1st minute. If that happens (more often with some genres) again, here's nothing that can be done except making a cover and hoping. This is my #1 annoyance with Suno; pretty much 70% of my songs sound like crap because of that, although most of them start very clean, but then slowly become louder and louder; one can easily spot the problem just by looking at their wave plots. 4: User control - User can enter their lyrics or ask the AI to generate them itself based on the user prompt, and results vary from decent to sometimes surprisingly good. Also with original lyrics it's amazing how it finds the best way to fit them into a song, and I don't even write in English. Simply astounding! Control over song creation is quite limited however; one can give directions but chords insertion is limited to things like [G#m] before the affected line, and I think very basic rhythm figures can be entered in some way, but I still didn't test those features. A xoxoxo grid to enter rhythms would be a killer feature, but please, dear Suno engineers, don't assume everyone wants to make a 4/4 hip hop figure on a 16 step grid; my favorite drummer is Neil Peart and... yes, one can totally program YYZ-like things on a capable enough drum machine. Personas are a very recent addition; once the user creates a song whose style (+instruments and vocals) they like, the personas function can be used to create a virtual artist that inherits those characteristics, so that following songs created using the same persona will be similar in style and sound. Be warned however that they seem to inherit low quality hallucinations as well. I've thrown away lots of credits wondering why a persona I created made great songs that I liked a lot, but all of them, and i mean really all of them, sounded like dog crap. If you get a bad song don't make a persona out of it as it probably won't be worth the effort, but keep it just in case they correct the AI so that it can be used to correct bad sounding songs and personas. 4b: Users songs, along with all pieces created to correct them, are thrown into a giant library that grows and grows, and finding an old song can be frustrating for lacking any mechanism to search them in unique way, just by title, style or lyrics, which helps but it's far from perfect. Being able to tag songs with a number (for example a ANSI timestamp) and having related pieces grouped under thir own subdirectory would help a lot. My library grew to over 200 pages, and I deleted a lot of stuff before giving up. It was just so time consuming. Playlists could help in this context, although that wouldn't be their intended use. ...

squarefoot 2y ago
5: Uploading - Users can upload audio material, which naturally represents a source of panic among big publishers because they fear people can upload part of a hit (currently max length is 2 minutes) and use it to clone big name artists, which 1: can be done in other ways, and 2: is far from being the most fun way to play with the feature, and could be a source of legal problems although, I repeat myself, there are multiple ways to do that, both inside and outside of Suno. Here's how I used it: any of you recall of that C64 game called Commando with that really catchy soundtrack by that genius called Rob Hubbard? Well, I spent decades waiting for the day I could play it in real life, but never could with my old bands, so I grabbed the game audio, edited it to fit the most relevant parts into 2 minutes, and turned it into a disco-funky song with slap bass et al plus AI generated lyrics celebrating the old times playing 8 bit videogames. Yep, it works on chiptunes too, and it is damn fun. 6: User support - next to none. They reply to all mails and bug reports, but as you can easily guess it's all AI generated and contains lots of boilerplate text; however it seems there is something that takes notes about bugs, so it might be still worth reporting them. However I asked them a couple times about song moderation with a very specific question about potential trolling, and ther mail AI kept replying about writing PG-13 lyrics while the problem was completely different. Specifically, I asked if I publish a song with political tone, I mean, nothing inciting violence, offending or anything like that, but of course strongly biased, what would happen if a group of trolls would report the song as inappropriate just because they don't share the same ideas and want me silenced? They kept replying about a moderation team, an I replied back that in case the team is an algorithm, then it could be easily gamed, like a bunch of flat earthers could silence a scientist just because of mere numbers. Still didn't receive any meaningful reply on the subject, so I'll keep my profile private for now, possibly sharing my song elsewhere. Better be sure before risking to lose everything Google/Youtube-style. I'm sure I forgot something I'll recall later; in that eventuality I'll add that on this post. What are your experiences with Suno or other AI music generation services? So far it seems Udio offers much better sound quality, however it's still limited to 2 minutes (I'm aware of concatenating pieces, but it's not ideal, not even on Suno), but they progress at such speed that everything could change from day to day.

squarefoot 2y ago

5: Uploading - Users can upload audio material, which naturally represents a source of panic among big publishers because they fear people can upload part of a hit (currently max length is 2 minutes) and use it to clone big name artists, which 1: can be done in other ways, and 2: is far from being the most fun way to play with the feature, and could be a source of legal problems although, I repeat myself, there are multiple ways to do that, both inside and outside of Suno. Here's how I used it: any of you recall of that C64 game called Commando with that really catchy soundtrack by that genius called Rob Hubbard? Well, I spent decades waiting for the day I could play it in real life, but never could with my old bands, so I grabbed the game audio, edited it to fit the most relevant parts into 2 minutes, and turned it into a disco-funky song with slap bass et al plus AI generated lyrics celebrating the old times playing 8 bit videogames. Yep, it works on chiptunes too, and it is damn fun. 6: User support - next to none. They reply to all mails and bug reports, but as you can easily guess it's all AI generated and contains lots of boilerplate text; however it seems there is something that takes notes about bugs, so it might be still worth reporting them. However I asked them a couple times about song moderation with a very specific question about potential trolling, and ther mail AI kept replying about writing PG-13 lyrics while the problem was completely different. Specifically, I asked if I publish a song with political tone, I mean, nothing inciting violence, offending or anything like that, but of course strongly biased, what would happen if a group of trolls would report the song as inappropriate just because they don't share the same ideas and want me silenced? They kept replying about a moderation team, an I replied back that in case the team is an algorithm, then it could be easily gamed, like a bunch of flat earthers could silence a scientist just because of mere numbers. Still didn't receive any meaningful reply on the subject, so I'll keep my profile private for now, possibly sharing my song elsewhere. Better be sure before risking to lose everything Google/Youtube-style. I'm sure I forgot something I'll recall later; in that eventuality I'll add that on this post. What are your experiences with Suno or other AI music generation services? So far it seems Udio offers much better sound quality, however it's still limited to 2 minutes (I'm aware of concatenating pieces, but it's not ideal, not even on Suno), but they progress at such speed that everything could change from day to day.