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This would be akin to asking a shop owner if I'm allowed to pick a panflet from an endless stack of panflets placed on the sidewalk. If they don't want the publ

This would be akin to asking a shop owner if I'm allowed to pick a panflet from an endless stack of panflets placed on the sidewalk. If they don't want the public to pick panflets, don't put them where the public can reach'em!

mtnGoat 2y ago
Same could be said about things in your front yard? I’m not sure taking liberties with things you don’t own, is always the best policy, nor is putting the entire responsibility on the owner. I don’t think this is something you can boil down to a simple black and white.
- barnabee 2y ago
  Accessing a publicly available web service is not “taking liberties with things you don’t own”. If you put a server on the public internet and I send it a message (assuming I’m not using ill-gotten credentials, etc.), anything it responds with is your problem, not mine.
- Chris2048 2y ago
  > Same could be said about things in your front yard? No. It could be said, but wouldn't be true - objects in a domestic front yard are nothing like pamphlets placed on the sidewalk.
  - mtnGoat 2y ago
    Things on sidewalks are not free to take because you can touch them. Just like things in your front yard are not. Just because you can get to it, doesn’t mean it’s yours to take and act upon at will.
    - Chris2048 2y ago
      Pamphlets are by convention. And even if they weren't, they could be removed on the basis of being on public property anyway.
    - pdimitar 2y ago
      Not sure if you are deliberately missing the point. The convoluted example was more along the lines of "some company WANTS you to take pamphlets sitting on the ground in front of their store... but only take them while bending over and not while squatting". Also sidewalks are technically public property, while your front yard is a private property. Not sure why you are acting so obtuse.

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This would be akin to asking a shop owner if I'm allowed to pick a panflet from an endless stack of panflets placed on the sidewalk. If they don't want the publ

by rmbyrro 2y ago

mtnGoat 2y ago
Same could be said about things in your front yard? I’m not sure taking liberties with things you don’t own, is always the best policy, nor is putting the entire responsibility on the owner. I don’t think this is something you can boil down to a simple black and white.
- barnabee 2y ago
  Accessing a publicly available web service is not “taking liberties with things you don’t own”. If you put a server on the public internet and I send it a message (assuming I’m not using ill-gotten credentials, etc.), anything it responds with is your problem, not mine.
- Chris2048 2y ago
  > Same could be said about things in your front yard? No. It could be said, but wouldn't be true - objects in a domestic front yard are nothing like pamphlets placed on the sidewalk.
  - mtnGoat 2y ago
    Things on sidewalks are not free to take because you can touch them. Just like things in your front yard are not. Just because you can get to it, doesn’t mean it’s yours to take and act upon at will.
    - Chris2048 2y ago
      Pamphlets are by convention. And even if they weren't, they could be removed on the basis of being on public property anyway.
    - pdimitar 2y ago
      Not sure if you are deliberately missing the point. The convoluted example was more along the lines of "some company WANTS you to take pamphlets sitting on the ground in front of their store... but only take them while bending over and not while squatting". Also sidewalks are technically public property, while your front yard is a private property. Not sure why you are acting so obtuse.