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>History is also almost empty of positive climate change outcome. What would you consider positive a climate change outcome? I think there are tons of positive
by s1artibartfast 2y ago
>History is also almost empty of positive climate change outcome.
What would you consider positive a climate change outcome? I think there are tons of positive outcomes, but agree there is a lot of greenwashing as well.
Moving from coal to natural gas has a enormous positive outcome. PV is as well. US CO2 per capita and total emissions are down 25% in the last 20 years, which is a massive positive outcome. Global CO2 per capita has gone negative, which is another massive win.
It is too soon to tell, but we may even be at or have passed global peak emissions, which will be another massive milestone.
- aziaziazi 2y ago> moving from coal We didn’t, and coal consumption even double since 80’s. What we did is add oil to it and then gaz [0]. Some could argue that without oil and gaz, coal might be even higher today. In that sense gas is more a “less bad” than a good one : it did not diminish the coal consumption neither out energy need. https://ourworldindata.org/fossil-fuels https://ourworldindata.org/fossil-fuels
- CrazyStat 2y agoIndividual countries like the US absolutely have moved away from coal; US coal consumption has been cut in half in the past 20 years. These reductions have been more than offset by increases in other countries.
- s1artibartfast 2y agoUS Coal is half of what it was in 2007. Is that not progress? Would you rather we double it back to where it was? because that was the alternative alternative.
- aziaziazi 2y agoBy “we” I don’t mean “USA” but “humans”. I’m very happy USA did cut its coal consumption.