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TSMC "Forbidden" to Manufacture 2nm Chips Outside Taiwan
- ashoeafoot 2y agoAh,the brave new world of everyone for himself. i ecpect finland,svedes, korea and japan and the poles to announce nuke ownership any day now. Lessons were learned, the isolationism has been planned for.
- im3w1l 2y agoAnother possibility is that see a new doctrine of "what's in it for me?" That's similar to, but not quite the same as isolationism. It would start with isolationism as the ground state, but then seek to depart from that in mutually beneficial ways. Seen from that perspective, this 2nm ban might not be the final word, but rather the first step of a negotiation process.
- cyanydeez 2y ago"You ignore my genocide and ill ignore yours"
- paulddraper 2y agoAlways has been
- sparky_ 2y agoPotential explanation: https://thediplomat.com/2024/09/silicon-shield-2-0-a-taiwan-perspective/ https://thediplomat.com/2024/09/silicon-shield-2-0-a-taiwan-...
- beardyw 2y agoSomeone should explain to The Diplomat that diplomacy has no room for wishful thinking. Not a mention that Taiwan and TSMC might have a secret "what we will do if China takes over" department.
- heylook 2y ago> Not a mention that Taiwan and TSMC might have a secret "what we will do if China takes over" department. There's no "might" or "secret" about it. They advertise it widely on purpose. https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/tsmcs-euv-machines-are-equipped-with-a-remote-self-destruct-in-case-of-an-invasion https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/tsmcs-euv-machine...
- beardyw 2y agoBut would they destroy what they have? I don't think so.
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- kwere 2y agoGood, relying too much on an external force/coalition was foolish from the start. Expecially for the Nato countries that dont meet basic military capabilities
- zjp 2y agoThe whole point was to secure global chip supply chains in the event of a Chinese invasion. This will not fly.
- favorited 2y agoTSMC and Taiwan don't want secure global chip supply chains in the event of a Chinese invasion. They want any invasion to crash the world's technology markets & prevent any company or government from accessing their most advanced fab processes, because those are powerful deterrents. This absolutely will fly.
- nineteen999 2y agoI wonder why the USA didn't ensure TSMC guarantee sub-2nm production in their new US plants when they gave funding to TSMC. Only back in April there was this article describe how two of the three new plants in Arizona would be doing 2nm. Not for a while now I guess. https://www.commerce.gov/news/press-releases/2024/04/biden-harris-administration-announces-preliminary-terms-tsmc-expanded https://www.commerce.gov/news/press-releases/2024/04/biden-h...
- favorited 2y agoTSMC or its US subsidiary may have agreed to it at the time, but it sounds like the Taiwanese government has other ideas: > "Since Taiwan has related regulations to protect its own technologies, TSMC cannot produce 2nm chips overseas currently," [Minister of Economic Affairs] Kuo said at a meeting of the Economics Committee in Taipei, reports Taipei Times. "Although TSMC plans to make 2nm chips [abroad] in the future, its core technology will stay in Taiwan." <https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/tsmc-cannot-produce-2nm-chips-overseas-until-domestic-output-becomes-more-advanced-confirms-taiwanese-govt-official https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/tsmc-cannot-produ...>
- nineteen999 2y agoYeah I guess regardless of the contract between the US government and TSMC, TSMC has the right to veto certain activities of Taiwanese companies. I'd feel a little bait and switched if I was the US government right now though.
- jacobp100 2y agoThe machines are produced in Europe. Won’t this just lead to a retaliatory ban on exporting machines to Taiwan?
- Ekaros 2y agoThis can be reasonable protectionism too. Why allow your highest value add products to be manufactured outside when you can keep them on your own land and thus taxes from them. That makes absolute pure economical sense.
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