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What an embarrassing situation. $163,000,000 spent and nothing to show for it. Of course, Oracle / SAP have absurdly powerful contracts that basically bail the

What an embarrassing situation. $163,000,000 spent and nothing to show for it. Of course, Oracle / SAP have absurdly powerful contracts that basically bail them out of any accountability. This is despite both of them being notorious for overruns on their projects, especially government deployments. From a survey, 47% of ERP projects have budget overruns. https://www.statista.com/statistics/526423/worldwide-erp-implementation-projects-cost-overrun/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/526423/worldwide-erp-imp... When you have this many problems in government deployments, it goes from "oopsie doopsie" to "government budget milking machine - working as intended"

NearAP 2y ago
People love to blame Oracle or SAP for every botched rollout without actually looking at who is responsible. If you used consultants for the implementation, how is a botched rollout the ERP vendors fault? This article says …… The council initially customized Oracle but now plans to reimplement the software out-of-the-box, adopting standardized processes..…. The above tells you the issue isn’t from Oracle the ERP vendor.
- bearjaws 2y ago
  Sales team and contracting sure have no issue offering those solutions and how "easy they are to implement". Literally every ERP sales process includes an "oh you can customize the edge cases to your needs!", but rarely is that a good idea.
  - NearAP 2y ago
    ….every ERP sales process includes an you can customize the edge cases… This isn’t what you think. First, large ERP vendors will repeat the mantra that you shouldn’t customize and that they don’t advise it. At best, implementation consultants will be the one talking about customizing. Secondly, ERP sales process isn’t as simple as you think. Buying firm have a detailed and documented list of requirements and these are checked off as they’re being demoed. If customization is needed, that specific customization needs to be shown before that item requirement is checked off.
BrandoElFollito 2y ago
They have the contracts someone agreed to sign.

NearAP 2y ago

People love to blame Oracle or SAP for every botched rollout without actually looking at who is responsible. If you used consultants for the implementation, how is a botched rollout the ERP vendors fault? This article says …… The council initially customized Oracle but now plans to reimplement the software out-of-the-box, adopting standardized processes..…. The above tells you the issue isn’t from Oracle the ERP vendor.

bearjaws 2y ago
Sales team and contracting sure have no issue offering those solutions and how "easy they are to implement". Literally every ERP sales process includes an "oh you can customize the edge cases to your needs!", but rarely is that a good idea.
- NearAP 2y ago
  ….every ERP sales process includes an you can customize the edge cases… This isn’t what you think. First, large ERP vendors will repeat the mantra that you shouldn’t customize and that they don’t advise it. At best, implementation consultants will be the one talking about customizing. Secondly, ERP sales process isn’t as simple as you think. Buying firm have a detailed and documented list of requirements and these are checked off as they’re being demoed. If customization is needed, that specific customization needs to be shown before that item requirement is checked off.

BrandoElFollito 2y ago

They have the contracts someone agreed to sign.