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It's kind of hard to tell how real your problems are without knowing which environment you are talking about, but it would be helpful to know where you have enc

It's kind of hard to tell how real your problems are without knowing which environment you are talking about, but it would be helpful to know where you have encountered these problems. I haven't seen them in any of the apps or OSes I regularly use (Windows, macOS). On both Windows and macOS, windows are clearly delimited by drop shadows. You have to go out of your way as a malicious app developer to explicitly disable that. I haven't interacted with a scrollbar in decades. Its purpose in 2024 is a visual cue.

seba_dos1 2y ago
Most of those are immediately apparent in at least Windows, macOS and GNOME.
da_rob 2y ago
> On both Windows and macOS, windows are clearly delimited by drop shadows. https://www.threads.net/@roblillack/post/DBYOuivOPFV https://www.threads.net/@roblillack/post/DBYOuivOPFV
- Numerlor 2y ago
  Looks like the terminal but can't zoom in on mobile, I guess UsabilityNightmares for threads too
  - da_rob 2y ago
    IIRC it's the Calculator. :(
    - Dalewyn 2y ago
      It's the minimize/maximize/close buttons. Inactive windows draw them ever so slightly in gray compared to active windows drawing them in black. Calculator has them in black. As for Powershell/Terminal, assuming the screenshot wasn't timed deliberately, there is no caret which implies it's not the active window. It's shading, but the worst kind of shading.
      - Numerlor 2y ago
        The new windows GUI framework used for the windows on the screen seems to be worse in this regard, as normal windows get their titles greyed out which is quite obvious and is a more natural place to look at than the control buttons
Dalewyn 2y ago
>On both Windows and macOS, windows are clearly delimited by drop shadows. I disable window shadows with extreme prejudice because I find them visually painful. They obscure something I should be able to see without meaningfully highlighting what I want to see, which instinctively strains my eyes. What the sincere hell was the problem with a simple, thick window border? >Its purpose in 2024 is a visual cue. Yes. They are practically non-existent in most environments.

seba_dos1 2y ago

Most of those are immediately apparent in at least Windows, macOS and GNOME.

da_rob 2y ago

> On both Windows and macOS, windows are clearly delimited by drop shadows. https://www.threads.net/@roblillack/post/DBYOuivOPFV https://www.threads.net/@roblillack/post/DBYOuivOPFV

Numerlor 2y ago
Looks like the terminal but can't zoom in on mobile, I guess UsabilityNightmares for threads too
- da_rob 2y ago
  IIRC it's the Calculator. :(
  - Dalewyn 2y ago
    It's the minimize/maximize/close buttons. Inactive windows draw them ever so slightly in gray compared to active windows drawing them in black. Calculator has them in black. As for Powershell/Terminal, assuming the screenshot wasn't timed deliberately, there is no caret which implies it's not the active window. It's shading, but the worst kind of shading.
    - Numerlor 2y ago
      The new windows GUI framework used for the windows on the screen seems to be worse in this regard, as normal windows get their titles greyed out which is quite obvious and is a more natural place to look at than the control buttons

Dalewyn 2y ago

>On both Windows and macOS, windows are clearly delimited by drop shadows. I disable window shadows with extreme prejudice because I find them visually painful. They obscure something I should be able to see without meaningfully highlighting what I want to see, which instinctively strains my eyes. What the sincere hell was the problem with a simple, thick window border? >Its purpose in 2024 is a visual cue. Yes. They are practically non-existent in most environments.