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We're at the reply limit so I'll reply to your other comment here for my FINAL reply. >There's so much disinformation and just outright lies here I don't know
by wakawaka28 2y ago
We're at the reply limit so I'll reply to your other comment here for my FINAL reply.
>There's so much disinformation and just outright lies here I don't know where to start.
You didn't read or watch any of it I'm sure.
>Kamala isn't a Marxist.
Her father is a Marxist professor. She talks constantly about policies like "equity" and "paying your fair share" aka redistributing wealth. It might all be fake, but considering that this crap runs in her family I think she is being honest.
>Trump DID NOT try to diffuse the insurrection, he literally stoked the flames.
He offered to have the National Guard police the situation as he expected a HUGE crowd to visit DC that day. Nancy Pelosi turned him down. He told everyone to go home peacefully on Twitter and in person, and that fact was suppressed. He was banned off of Twitter before most people could see his final plea for people to disperse.
>And then you "quote" the most alt-right leaning alternative facts "news" you can. Really? Daily Mail and "arrestedbykamala.com"? Come on now, if you're going to lie you have to at least try a little.
You can't just call every inconvenient fact a lie and be taken seriously. That is why Democrats lost. At least watch the trailer for that documentary. It is extremely eye-opening and true. If it wasn't true, Kamala would have had a case for defamation.
>Trump's fiscal policy will obliterate the US GDP and send us into a recession.
Bro I hate to break it to you but we've been in a recession all along. The numbers are cooked, and do not account for extremely high inflation that we haven't seen since like 50 years ago.
>The US manufacturing industry simply cannot handle such severe tariffs. Sticker prices for Americans will go up dramatically.
Fixing our trade imbalance requires us to institute protectionist policies, even if that costs us money and our standard of living goes down. Not taking this bitter medicine now will lead to us becoming much more deindustrialized, and possibly incapable of recovering. Nobody in the race but Trump was talking about even attempting a solution to our trade imbalance.
>But that's the beginning. A trade war will begin, and further plunge the US into economic depression. Consumers in other countries will slow down their consumption of US goods, further driving our GDP down.
What US goods? We don't make much of anything besides US dollars, and foreigners certainly aren't paying 4x the price of Chinese goods to get our stuff in general. We have been in a trade war for 30-50 years and getting our asses handed to us.
>In addition, Trump's tax plans will increase the tax burden for the middle class. So while you have tariffs, which are essentially a severe tax, we will also have higher taxes.
There is no free lunch. Our government is too big and we run deficits every single year. It is unsustainable. We need to either cut government or increase taxes. Trump may cut taxes to help out everyone who is struggling, but unless that is accompanied by austerity measures or huge domestic production we will be facing severe debt issues in the future. I think there is a stock market crash in the tank, and democrats are lucky that Trump will probably have to take the fall for it even though it's a systemic problem and not his fault.
>Trump will reinstate Schedule F, crippling the bureaucracy and further enriching powerful corporations in their position. Most government agencies will be completely useless.
They already are completely useless. As for corporations getting enriched, they exist for a reason and you retirement fund requires them to make money. Anyone who works for private industry is dependent on them making profits.
>The FTC and FDA will be deregulated, and we will get more unfair consumer practices and further health crises such as the listeria outbreak.
They're talking about going after harmful chemicals in our food. RFK has decried corporate capture of the FDA and CDC, and will bring down the hammer on the people allowing these toxins to be in our food. We need someone to deal with the PFAS and endocrine disruptors, and he is the guy to do it.
>But those are the agencies which are lucky. Some, like the department of education, will be disbanded. Millions of Americans who rely on tools such as FAFSA for upward social and economic mobility will be harmed, further hurting the GDP and keeping many Americans in poverty.
I very much doubt he will disband the Department of Education. Something like half of student loan borrowers are incapable of paying for their loans. We need accountability when it comes to outcomes for student loans. Tuition rates have exploded in response to unlimited and unconditional government-backed credit.
>In addition, Trump will appoint at least one new supreme court crony. The court, particularly Justice Thomas, has stated he wishes to revisit all 14th amendment cases. It's likely Obergefell will be overturned and gay marriage will no longer be federally recognized.
I don't think marriage should be a government issue. I don't think a gay marriage ban is on the table. If it comes up then it comes up, but it is not a critical issue for me or most people.
>Further, Trump will deregulate the healthcare industry, undoing many Obama-era protections. This means insurance can, and will, drop coverage for pre-existing conditions (currently illegal due to the ACA). Many Americans will further fall into inadequate healthcare, bearing in mind the US already has the lowest quality healthcare out of all developed countries.
I don't believe any of this, but I will look into it. I will have to refute you on one point. We have great health care here with the absolute best technology, but it costs too much.
>To add insult to injury, Trump's deregulation will also affect those seeking gender-affirming care and PrEP. It's plausible we will have another HIV epidemic, and suicides among transgender individuals will go up.
So-called "gender-affirming care" is elective and cosmetic and as such should not be covered by insurance. Doing it to a minor should be a capital offense. It is very unfortunate that these people are mentally ill but mutilating them is not the solution, and even if it helped I would not expect the government to pay for it. What's next, paying for breast implants and limb lengthening?
>Economically, socially, and politically, all of Trump's policies are a disaster. Trump voters largely don't know this, because even they don't listen to Trump. I have no doubt you'll reply "no, no none of that will happen!"
I disagree entirely. The only people not listening to Trump are leftists. Even when you give them references to critical information, they say shit like "What do you expect me to read that? It's obviously a lie because it's <Daily Mail, Fox News, anything else that's inconvenient to me>!"
>If you were listening, this has all been explicitly stated as goals under the Trump administration. You would do well to vote for someone you believe.
I believe in Trump's generally conservative and protectionist policies. Maybe tariffs will backfire somehow but doing nothing as we have been sure as hell isn't working. I don't think orange man is a miracle worker but I think we have gone way too far in one direction and now a major course correction is needed.
- consteval 2y ago> I very much doubt... Yeah and as I predicted, this is the big idea. The difference between you and me is I believe Trump - you consider Trump a liar. The obvious question is - why did you vote for someone you consider a liar? Why did you vote for someone banking on the fact their policies DON'T go through?