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The US populace has no direct experience of this. I suspect a few actual deployments will change these attitudes, but I have no idea in what way.

ChumpGPT 2y ago
I think they do if I'm not mistaken. The National Guard was deployed to quell student protests at Kent and ended up killing 4 students. https://www.kent.edu/may-4-historical-accuracy https://www.kent.edu/may-4-historical-accuracy Man this sounds like today doesn't it.... >Ohio Governor James Rhodes flew to Kent on Sunday morning, and his mood was anything but calm. At a press conference, he issued a provocative statement calling campus protestors the worst type of people in America and stating that every force of law would be used to deal with them.
gregjor 2y ago
Yes the population does have direct experience, except for those born after Jan 2021. Somewhat selective list here. Four of those happened in my lifetime, and I have direct experience with two of them because I lived in Los Angeles at the time. https://www.military.com/military-life/6-times-military-was-used-suppress-civilian-uprisings-us.html https://www.military.com/military-life/6-times-military-was-... Longer list here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations#Riots_and_public_disorder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_mili... The Federal government/President can commandeer the state militias (National Guard). Aside from the four branches of the Federal military, the Federal government has multiple agencies/forces with significant armed personnel and firepower available to them: Coast Guard, FBI, USCIS, Secret Service, IRS, etc.
- uoaei 2y ago
  Is this some AI generated drivel? Or are you intentionally denigrating the Coast Guard? They are a branch of the military. In fact there are six now with the establishment of the Space Force. Also, yes, the National Guard was deployed on 1/6, but your own comment distinguishes the National Guard from the "military" proper, which is the subject of TFA.
  - gregjor 2y ago
    The Dept of Defense has three Executive Departments: Army, Navy, Air Force. The Marine Corps, a distinct branch of the military forces, comes under the executive direction of the Dept. of the Navy. The Coast Guard got moved to Dept. of Homeland Security in 2002, but can transfer to the Dept. of the Navy during times of war. The Space Force does not have armed forces (yet). Nor do NOAA or the Public Health Service, the other uniformed services under Federal control. I didn't list them because they would probably not get deployed with weapons against American civilians. The Joint Chiefs Of Staff consists of the chiefs of the Army, Navy, Air Force, Space Force, and National Guard. The Coast Guard (since 2002) comes under DHS, which sits on the National Security Council with the Joint Chiefs, but is not administered by the Joint Chiefs/Pentagon except in times of war. So the word "military" in reference to US Federal armed forces can mean several different things. The FBI and ATF fall under the Dept. of Justice, not technically a military force, but as we saw at Waco (to give the most well-known and large-scale example), the FBI and ATF both have quite a bit of firepower at their disposal and do get deployed against American civilians. The OP asked about deploying the military but did not define what they meant -- the core armed military forces commanded from the Pentagon (Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps)? National Guard? Any other armed Federal forces such as the FBI, ATF, and USCIS? National Park Service officers? Local police agencies commandeered in a crisis as happened Jan 6? I did not attempt to read the OP's mind. I think I clearly expanded on that and offered both a limited definition (the four armed forces that have a named department in the DoD) and the broader list of armed agencies under Federal control, the biggest of which is DHS, which includes the Coast Guard and USCIS, both uniformed and armed forces that may or may not qualify as "military" depending on one's understanding of that term. You could simply ask what I meant without engaging in ad hominem attacks, calling my comment drivel, or insinuating that I "intentionally denigrated" the Coast Guard when I did no such thing. You could interpret the distinction I made with the Coast Guard as pedantry, irrelevant, disrespectful, or maybe infer than I have some experience with the Coast Guard and wanted to clearly place them in the structure of the US Armed Forces, colloquially called "the military," although the Coast Guard does not define itself as a military force except in times of war. You can refer to the official US Coast Guard web site's About page for their own definition, which places the Coast Guard in the US Armed Forces, but as a protective and rescue service, not a military force that gets deployed against other nations, or US civilians. Since you attacked me personally I will mention that in my own family I have serving and retired members of the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, and Coast Guard. That includes parents, grandparents, siblings, and one of my own children.
ttyprintk 2y ago
1992 LA riots had something like 1000-2000 natl guard
- relaxing 2y ago
  And was one of several events that helped inflame antigovernment sentiment through the 90s.

ChumpGPT 2y ago

I think they do if I'm not mistaken. The National Guard was deployed to quell student protests at Kent and ended up killing 4 students. https://www.kent.edu/may-4-historical-accuracy https://www.kent.edu/may-4-historical-accuracy Man this sounds like today doesn't it.... >Ohio Governor James Rhodes flew to Kent on Sunday morning, and his mood was anything but calm. At a press conference, he issued a provocative statement calling campus protestors the worst type of people in America and stating that every force of law would be used to deal with them.

gregjor 2y ago

Yes the population does have direct experience, except for those born after Jan 2021. Somewhat selective list here. Four of those happened in my lifetime, and I have direct experience with two of them because I lived in Los Angeles at the time. https://www.military.com/military-life/6-times-military-was-used-suppress-civilian-uprisings-us.html https://www.military.com/military-life/6-times-military-was-... Longer list here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations#Riots_and_public_disorder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_mili... The Federal government/President can commandeer the state militias (National Guard). Aside from the four branches of the Federal military, the Federal government has multiple agencies/forces with significant armed personnel and firepower available to them: Coast Guard, FBI, USCIS, Secret Service, IRS, etc.

uoaei 2y ago
Is this some AI generated drivel? Or are you intentionally denigrating the Coast Guard? They are a branch of the military. In fact there are six now with the establishment of the Space Force. Also, yes, the National Guard was deployed on 1/6, but your own comment distinguishes the National Guard from the "military" proper, which is the subject of TFA.
- gregjor 2y ago
  The Dept of Defense has three Executive Departments: Army, Navy, Air Force. The Marine Corps, a distinct branch of the military forces, comes under the executive direction of the Dept. of the Navy. The Coast Guard got moved to Dept. of Homeland Security in 2002, but can transfer to the Dept. of the Navy during times of war. The Space Force does not have armed forces (yet). Nor do NOAA or the Public Health Service, the other uniformed services under Federal control. I didn't list them because they would probably not get deployed with weapons against American civilians. The Joint Chiefs Of Staff consists of the chiefs of the Army, Navy, Air Force, Space Force, and National Guard. The Coast Guard (since 2002) comes under DHS, which sits on the National Security Council with the Joint Chiefs, but is not administered by the Joint Chiefs/Pentagon except in times of war. So the word "military" in reference to US Federal armed forces can mean several different things. The FBI and ATF fall under the Dept. of Justice, not technically a military force, but as we saw at Waco (to give the most well-known and large-scale example), the FBI and ATF both have quite a bit of firepower at their disposal and do get deployed against American civilians. The OP asked about deploying the military but did not define what they meant -- the core armed military forces commanded from the Pentagon (Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps)? National Guard? Any other armed Federal forces such as the FBI, ATF, and USCIS? National Park Service officers? Local police agencies commandeered in a crisis as happened Jan 6? I did not attempt to read the OP's mind. I think I clearly expanded on that and offered both a limited definition (the four armed forces that have a named department in the DoD) and the broader list of armed agencies under Federal control, the biggest of which is DHS, which includes the Coast Guard and USCIS, both uniformed and armed forces that may or may not qualify as "military" depending on one's understanding of that term. You could simply ask what I meant without engaging in ad hominem attacks, calling my comment drivel, or insinuating that I "intentionally denigrated" the Coast Guard when I did no such thing. You could interpret the distinction I made with the Coast Guard as pedantry, irrelevant, disrespectful, or maybe infer than I have some experience with the Coast Guard and wanted to clearly place them in the structure of the US Armed Forces, colloquially called "the military," although the Coast Guard does not define itself as a military force except in times of war. You can refer to the official US Coast Guard web site's About page for their own definition, which places the Coast Guard in the US Armed Forces, but as a protective and rescue service, not a military force that gets deployed against other nations, or US civilians. Since you attacked me personally I will mention that in my own family I have serving and retired members of the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, and Coast Guard. That includes parents, grandparents, siblings, and one of my own children.

ttyprintk 2y ago

1992 LA riots had something like 1000-2000 natl guard

relaxing 2y ago
And was one of several events that helped inflame antigovernment sentiment through the 90s.