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Washington just voted on an initiative to repeal the state's cap and trade law on CO2 and it was soundly rejected by voters 61.7% to 38.3%. The proponents of t
by tzs 2y ago
Washington just voted on an initiative to repeal the state's cap and trade law on CO2 and it was soundly rejected by voters 61.7% to 38.3%.
The proponents of the initiative heavily focused on saying repeal would lower the price of gas. The opponents focused on how much money cap and trade raised and what it was being used for (transportation infrastructure, clean air and water projects, wildfire prevention, for example).
I think voters recognized that the things the money is being used for are things that have to be addressed and they would rather the money come from something that at least somewhat correlates with those issues than from some more general revenue source like property taxes or sales taxes.
We really need more affordable electric cars in Washington. We've got high gas prices (and still would have high gas prices even if the initiative had passed [1]), and low electricity prices.
Yes, I know many people need more range, or do not have a good place to charge cheaply or conveniently. But there are a lot of people who are fine with the range, or who have multiple cars and could make one be an EV to cover all the shorter range driving, and who do have a cheap convenient way to charge.
In my area (western Washington but not in Seattle) the electric utility (PSE) is doing a trial of time of usage (TOU) rates. They are trying out three plans, one specifically for EV owners. It is a two year trial just entering the second year. From what I've read it seems likely they will continue after the trial--the trial is more to work out kinks rather than to decided if they want to offer TOU.
Normal marginal rates here are about $0.12/kWh. On the TOU rate I'm on they are $0.08/kWh off-peak and $0.19/kWh summer peak and $0.33/kWh winter peak. Summer is Apr-Sep and peak isc 5-8 pm M-F. Winter is Oct-Mar and peak is 5-8 pm M-F and 7-10 am M-F.
On the TOU plan for EV households, off-peak is around $.09/kWh, summer peak around $0.17/kWh, and winter peak around $0.31/kWh, but they also add "super off-peak" which is 11 pm to 7 am every day and is around $0.05/kWh.
If you could get gas for the current national average price of a little over $3/gallon you would need to use it in an ICE car that gets over 240 mpg for it to be cheaper than the cost to charge an EV on the EV TOU plan if you do all your charging during super off-peak. (For people not on any TOU plan they save with an EV if their ICE doesn't get over 100 mpg).
I've read that there is supposed to be a big increase in the availability of used EVs around 2026, due to a big increase in EV leases in 2023. Most leases are 3 year leases, and many of those will be available as used EVs when the leases are up.
[1] Gas prices vary a lot from state to state even between states that have the same taxes and fees. A big part of that is different transportation costs. How far you are from refineries and from pipelines and ports makes a big difference.
- tzs 2y agoAddendum: some people might be curious about how it is with a time of usage rate as described above, so I'll give a short description of what it has been like for me after one year on it. When invited to the trial I went over my past bills and calculated my potential savings. You can download PSE usage data that covers usage over 15-minute intervals so it was easy to write a program to look at my past bills and tell me (1) what they would have been if I had been under TOU but made no changes to usage, and (2) what they would have done if I could have moved any given percentage of my peak usage to off-peak. That showed I'd save about 1% with no usage changes. If I could shift all my peak to off-peak I'd save about 30%. Here's what I did to reduce peak usage. • Turn off heating during peak. • Turn water heater thermostat to the "vacation" setting during peak. • Move things I use hot water for to non-peak. Most of my hot water use is laundry, dishwashing, and bathing. For laundry I moved laundry day from Friday to Saturday. For dishwashing if I need to use the dishwasher on a weekday I time it for non-peak. I didn't need to change bathing because that is in the morning, and even if it happens to be during morning peak it will be my first hot water use of the day. My water heater is well enough insulated that it can handle that fine. • The move of laundry to Saturday took care of my biggest non-water heating appliance: the electric clothes dryer. • I try to avoid using the oven during peak. Not a big deal because the main thing I use the oven for is bake-at-home pizza and I don't do that often. Here are some things I did not change. • Microwave and George Foreman grill. At first I did, but then put the grill on a Kill-a-Watt and found out that the difference between peak and off-peak in winter over the course of cooking a burger or a grilled cheese sandwich was something like $0.02. • Computers, iPhone/iPad/Watch/Kindle charging, A/V system, lights. In the year before TOU, 17.6% of my usage was during peak hours. In the first year of TOU it was 5.1%. That works out to a savings of $190. That's somewhere in the 15-20% savings range.