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How easily could I play back in to a piano? Would be very useful for non-piano things like snythesizers.

chipweinberger 2y ago
That's a feature I thought about adding! It could be as simple as tapping 'use midi out' + 'play' on the phone. But would it need 'looper' support to be useful? Curious your use cases.
- anotheryou 2y ago
  Actually just asking for a friend. I think it does not have to loop or anything. Just needs to let me "listen" through the midi out instead of the phone. Caveat if course is, that I'd need to remember the synthesizer/settings/presets to have it sound the same again, but maybe half the fun to guess a bit and get happy accidents.
  - chipweinberger 2y ago
    All of the MIDI "Control Changes" are recorded. So if the synth supports MIDI CC, the settings would be 'replayed' :)
- bluefantail 2y ago
  Just wanted to add, I read your product page — love the idea and simplicity of the overall design! This idea was the first thing I thought of wanting as a feature. Essentially I play a midi controller as a keyboard connected to a Zynthian running Pianoteq, and it'd be really nice to be able to hear that same sound back on a whim. To be clear it isn't in any way a deal breaker as the Zynthian's CPU isn't quite good enough to run Pianoteq in the best quality anyway, and moving some MIDI off to a DAW later to create a higher quality version seems like a great option — just it'd be really cool to be able to play things back the same way I played them initially :)
  - chipweinberger 2y ago
    noted! It's something I've thought about as well. Will probably add it!
- TazeTSchnitzel 2y ago
  I would strongly recommend adding the ability to play back through a MIDI device. For me, I can get quite attached to the particular piano sounds on different devices I have, and being able to hear my playing exactly as I heard it when I played it is great. This is also, in some cases, the only way to make use of a keyboard/piano's built-in speakers. This would also possibly widen the market for the product a little. Playing non-piano instrument sounds, even very technical synthy stuff, on a keyboard should “just work” assuming that all outgoing MIDI data like Program Changes and Control Changes are recorded and replayed. The further you get away from pure piano, the less likely the result will sound right on anything other than the original keyboard/piano. Incidentally I'm curious if SysEx are recorded. Sometimes those are also used. For example some of the effect controls on certain Yamaha products use SysEx for historical reasons. If you do add playback over MIDI you may want to familiarise yourself with some of the “reset” mechanisms to avoid hanging notes and other such problems, and make the app send them at appropriate moments. All Notes Off, All Sounds Off and Reset All Controllers are particularly useful “special” Control Changes.
  - chipweinberger 2y ago
    yes sysex is recorded too! thanks for your thoughts, I'll add midi out playback :) and yes, head deep in midi knowledge by now but that is a good point about hanging notes.

That's a feature I thought about adding! It could be as simple as tapping 'use midi out' + 'play' on the phone. But would it need 'looper' support to be useful? Curious your use cases.

anotheryou 2y ago
Actually just asking for a friend. I think it does not have to loop or anything. Just needs to let me "listen" through the midi out instead of the phone. Caveat if course is, that I'd need to remember the synthesizer/settings/presets to have it sound the same again, but maybe half the fun to guess a bit and get happy accidents.
- chipweinberger 2y ago
  All of the MIDI "Control Changes" are recorded. So if the synth supports MIDI CC, the settings would be 'replayed' :)
bluefantail 2y ago
Just wanted to add, I read your product page — love the idea and simplicity of the overall design! This idea was the first thing I thought of wanting as a feature. Essentially I play a midi controller as a keyboard connected to a Zynthian running Pianoteq, and it'd be really nice to be able to hear that same sound back on a whim. To be clear it isn't in any way a deal breaker as the Zynthian's CPU isn't quite good enough to run Pianoteq in the best quality anyway, and moving some MIDI off to a DAW later to create a higher quality version seems like a great option — just it'd be really cool to be able to play things back the same way I played them initially :)
- chipweinberger 2y ago
  noted! It's something I've thought about as well. Will probably add it!
TazeTSchnitzel 2y ago
I would strongly recommend adding the ability to play back through a MIDI device. For me, I can get quite attached to the particular piano sounds on different devices I have, and being able to hear my playing exactly as I heard it when I played it is great. This is also, in some cases, the only way to make use of a keyboard/piano's built-in speakers. This would also possibly widen the market for the product a little. Playing non-piano instrument sounds, even very technical synthy stuff, on a keyboard should “just work” assuming that all outgoing MIDI data like Program Changes and Control Changes are recorded and replayed. The further you get away from pure piano, the less likely the result will sound right on anything other than the original keyboard/piano. Incidentally I'm curious if SysEx are recorded. Sometimes those are also used. For example some of the effect controls on certain Yamaha products use SysEx for historical reasons. If you do add playback over MIDI you may want to familiarise yourself with some of the “reset” mechanisms to avoid hanging notes and other such problems, and make the app send them at appropriate moments. All Notes Off, All Sounds Off and Reset All Controllers are particularly useful “special” Control Changes.
- chipweinberger 2y ago
  yes sysex is recorded too! thanks for your thoughts, I'll add midi out playback :) and yes, head deep in midi knowledge by now but that is a good point about hanging notes.