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>Kamala said none of this and was repeatedly way too nice to Trump. She literally called him a Nazi after he got shot. So the "too nice" crap does not fly. >I

>Kamala said none of this and was repeatedly way too nice to Trump. She literally called him a Nazi after he got shot. So the "too nice" crap does not fly. >In addition, some of this is just factual. Trump has said racist things. Trump supporters did attempt an insurrection. Trump supporters have used violence. Those aren't up for debate, so don't attempt to try, because I really don't care for alternative facts. There were isolated riots on January 6th, which Trump tried to defuse. There is evidence that security was relaxed and people in the crowd were antagonized to make them do something. These are not violent people. Most of them are gun owners. If they wanted violence or an "insurrection" there would have been one. The truth is they were there for a peaceful protest. Speaking of violent supporters, are you going to acknowledge that Antifa has committed a lot of violence, and that those people supported Biden/Kamala? They haven't been punished even 1/10th as much as Trump supporters. They're still arresting people on the pretense of Jan 6th today, with zero evidence. I'm not talking about some paramilitary wannabes. I'm talking about journalists, grandmothers, normal people who just happened to be there. In many cases they were let into the Capitol building by police. Just so you know, the mainstream media tried to frame that QAnon Shaman guy. They had video evidence of him talking to and being shown around by friendly cops and tried to suppress that. We're talking about charges that could have landed him in prison for years. It took a much-contested release of video footage to get the case dropped. Now he is running for Congress. >Conservatives often get very offended when you repeat policy and political speech their representatives have said back to them. It's incredibly strange to me, I've never seen such an overwhelming amount of personal shame in a population. I don't care what these representatives say as long as they do the right things. Stop pushing trans crap on children. Stop flooding the country with too many foreigners. >It's difficult to claim you're not transphobic when you vote for the people proposing anti-trans legislation. Actions speak much louder than words, and conservatives are already pretty bad at the words part. When your representatives aren't saying something racist or transphobic, they're passing laws with that ideology. Which... is worse. Most conservatives seem to be ok with trans people existing. They do not approve of these ideas being pushed on children, especially their own children. There might be a few conservatives who go too far and want to ban this or that, but we'll cross that bridge when we get there. Right now we have psychos trying to get children as young as 5 to get on board with gender transitions. I'm not exaggerating in the slightest. Gay people and many trans people are horrified by these policies because they know it's a bridge too far even for liberals. >This isn't true, and I'm not gonna sit here and debate how black Kamala is. This is one of the stupidest points the conservatives have brought up. She's always been biracial, end of. I would point you at Wikipedia archive snapshots from years ago where all references to her race were changed. I agree with you that this doesn't matter but half of her campaign has been that you should vote for the black woman president because otherwise you're racist. F that noise. End of. >There's absolutely zero reason you should be concerned with how black Kamala is. It's weird, it's strange, it's not normal. Please stop. You know what's strange, telling people they're racist because they don't like a particular black woman. Please stop. Wanna know some real reasons I didn't vote for her? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13886411/Arrested-Kamala-Harris-truancy-Cheree-Peoples-disabled-daughter-California.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13886411/Arrested-K... There is a documentary: https://www.arrestedbykamala.com/ https://www.arrestedbykamala.com/ She also fought to keep people in prison despite the evidence having been fradulent: https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article233375207.html https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-aler... That is not the best writeup of it, but I'm in a hurry right now. >Instead of talking about Trump's absolutely horrible fiscal policy, we're talking about how black Kamala is. Her campaign received a billion dollars and finished $20M in debt. She would be a Marxist disaster. Our fiscal issues are too big for any candidate to solve. Trump's economy was "good" all things considered, until the pandemic. He did support lockdowns as advised by so-called experts like Fauci, but he was in a no-win situation. >Modern conservatives couldn't articulate Trump's fiscal policy if their lives depended on it. They couldn't describe how tariffs work if you put a gun to their head. The left is no better than that. >But they can tell you that kids are getting sex changes in the school nurse's office and shitting in litter boxes, and they can sit around all day and debate how black Kamala is. They are! not in the school nurse's office but it is pushed by certain teachers and the medical industry. Furries are a real phenomenon, even if the litter box thing might have been a hoax. Kamala did market herself as Indian in one race and black in the next. She has no fiscal policy to speak of. >It's truly absurd to me that you can look at the right jumping all-in to identity politics and stuff nobody should care about and then complain about lowering the level of discourse. Oh but it is the left that chose to champion the crazy identity stuff and ram it down everyone's throats. Normal people are sick of it. They do want to focus on the issues but you can't focus on fiscal policy when their kid's teachers are trying to convince them that they should get a sex change. You haven't said anything meaningful about any policy besides "Trump rude, orange man bad" like all the rest of them. You say it with more words but that doesn't change much. I hope you actually think about what you're saying and be honest with yourself about what it is you are really supporting. Trump is a fitting response to dumping on normal people and their way of life nonstop for a decade.

consteval 2y ago
There's so much disinformation and just outright lies here I don't know where to start. Kamala isn't a Marxist. Trump DID NOT try to diffuse the insurrection, he literally stoked the flames. And then you "quote" the most alt-right leaning alternative facts "news" you can. Really? Daily Mail and "arrestedbykamala.com"? Come on now, if you're going to lie you have to at least try a little. > You haven't said anything meaningful about any policy besides "Trump rude, orange man bad" like all the rest of them. Okay. Trump's fiscal policy will obliterate the US GDP and send us into a recession. The US manufacturing industry simply cannot handle such severe tariffs. Sticker prices for Americans will go up dramatically. But that's the beginning. A trade war will begin, and further plunge the US into economic depression. Consumers in other countries will slow down their consumption of US goods, further driving our GDP down. In addition, Trump's tax plans will increase the tax burden for the middle class. So while you have tariffs, which are essentially a severe tax, we will also have higher taxes. Trump will reinstate Schedule F, crippling the bureaucracy and further enriching powerful corporations in their position. Most government agencies will be completely useless. The FTC and FDA will be deregulated, and we will get more unfair consumer practices and further health crises such as the listeria outbreak. But those are the agencies which are lucky. Some, like the department of education, will be disbanded. Millions of Americans who rely on tools such as FAFSA for upward social and economic mobility will be harmed, further hurting the GDP and keeping many Americans in poverty. In addition, Trump will appoint at least one new supreme court crony. The court, particularly Justice Thomas, has stated he wishes to revisit all 14th amendment cases. It's likely Obergefell will be overturned and gay marriage will no longer be federally recognized. Further, Trump will deregulate the healthcare industry, undoing many Obama-era protections. This means insurance can, and will, drop coverage for pre-existing conditions (currently illegal due to the ACA). Many Americans will further fall into inadequate healthcare, bearing in mind the US already has the lowest quality healthcare out of all developed countries. To add insult to injury, Trump's deregulation will also affect those seeking gender-affirming care and PrEP. It's plausible we will have another HIV epidemic, and suicides among transgender individuals will go up. Economically, socially, and politically, all of Trump's policies are a disaster. Trump voters largely don't know this, because even they don't listen to Trump. I have no doubt you'll reply "no, no none of that will happen!" If you were listening, this has all been explicitly stated as goals under the Trump administration. You would do well to vote for someone you believe.

consteval 2y ago

There's so much disinformation and just outright lies here I don't know where to start. Kamala isn't a Marxist. Trump DID NOT try to diffuse the insurrection, he literally stoked the flames. And then you "quote" the most alt-right leaning alternative facts "news" you can. Really? Daily Mail and "arrestedbykamala.com"? Come on now, if you're going to lie you have to at least try a little. > You haven't said anything meaningful about any policy besides "Trump rude, orange man bad" like all the rest of them. Okay. Trump's fiscal policy will obliterate the US GDP and send us into a recession. The US manufacturing industry simply cannot handle such severe tariffs. Sticker prices for Americans will go up dramatically. But that's the beginning. A trade war will begin, and further plunge the US into economic depression. Consumers in other countries will slow down their consumption of US goods, further driving our GDP down. In addition, Trump's tax plans will increase the tax burden for the middle class. So while you have tariffs, which are essentially a severe tax, we will also have higher taxes. Trump will reinstate Schedule F, crippling the bureaucracy and further enriching powerful corporations in their position. Most government agencies will be completely useless. The FTC and FDA will be deregulated, and we will get more unfair consumer practices and further health crises such as the listeria outbreak. But those are the agencies which are lucky. Some, like the department of education, will be disbanded. Millions of Americans who rely on tools such as FAFSA for upward social and economic mobility will be harmed, further hurting the GDP and keeping many Americans in poverty. In addition, Trump will appoint at least one new supreme court crony. The court, particularly Justice Thomas, has stated he wishes to revisit all 14th amendment cases. It's likely Obergefell will be overturned and gay marriage will no longer be federally recognized. Further, Trump will deregulate the healthcare industry, undoing many Obama-era protections. This means insurance can, and will, drop coverage for pre-existing conditions (currently illegal due to the ACA). Many Americans will further fall into inadequate healthcare, bearing in mind the US already has the lowest quality healthcare out of all developed countries. To add insult to injury, Trump's deregulation will also affect those seeking gender-affirming care and PrEP. It's plausible we will have another HIV epidemic, and suicides among transgender individuals will go up. Economically, socially, and politically, all of Trump's policies are a disaster. Trump voters largely don't know this, because even they don't listen to Trump. I have no doubt you'll reply "no, no none of that will happen!" If you were listening, this has all been explicitly stated as goals under the Trump administration. You would do well to vote for someone you believe.