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Ah, the United States of America, this is hardly possible in Europe, especially Germany.

by ewuhic 2y ago

goldeneye13_ 2y ago
This is UK
- 2-3-7-43-1807 2y ago
  ouch ... that hurt
- 2024user 2y ago
  ...are you hiring? :)
  - goldeneye13_ 2y ago
    If you are serious then I think trading firms are actively hiring. There’s a bunch of them in London jump, Jane etc. comp will be very high there. I think faang hiring is slower now, but not sure
    - 2024user 2y ago
      I was mostly joking but might start looking in the new year. I'll keep trading firms on my radar, cheers!
petters 2y ago
This is why we Europeans like working at American companies (in Europe)
- ewuhic 2y ago
  Now the question is where to find American companies willing to do B2B/freelance contract without location-adjusted bs.
  - thrw42A8N 2y ago
    Nowhere in Europe unless you want to never have free time during daytime. If they don't location adjust, they expect you to be available in their timezone. If you're OK with that, just visit the US and make some friends. Go to meetups and conferences. You will definitely find something much better than any EU offer (while still wildly underpaid in California) - that's your starting point. Do a good job, underpromise and overdeliver, and ask for referrals.
  - hn_throwaway_99 2y ago
    What you call "location adjusted bs" is actually just supply and demand. The supply of good, experienced software developers willing to work for $100k in the Bay Area is practically non-existent when "normal", nothing-special suburban houses there can go for a couple million. There are a much higher supply of developers willing to work for that in Poland because the CoL is so much lower. Similarly, a gigantic reason American companies hire overseas in the first place is because wages are lower outside the US. Without that wage differential most of those jobs wouldn't exist.
downrightmike 2y ago
Not with that attitude
n_ary 2y ago
Germany needs to regulate a mandatory posting of the pay range with every job being posted. The power dynamic is very skewed towards employers because when you send in your application, you must also indicate your pay expectations but employers (except select few) never post the pay ranges. In the end what happens is that, two seniors in the same team will earn in 50-70% difference while doing the same duties.

Ah, the United States of America, this is hardly possible in Europe, especially Germany.

by ewuhic 2y ago

Ah, the United States of America, this is hardly possible in Europe, especially Germany.

goldeneye13_ 2y ago

This is UK

2-3-7-43-1807 2y ago
ouch ... that hurt
2024user 2y ago
...are you hiring? :)
- goldeneye13_ 2y ago
  If you are serious then I think trading firms are actively hiring. There’s a bunch of them in London jump, Jane etc. comp will be very high there. I think faang hiring is slower now, but not sure
  - 2024user 2y ago
    I was mostly joking but might start looking in the new year. I'll keep trading firms on my radar, cheers!

petters 2y ago

This is why we Europeans like working at American companies (in Europe)

ewuhic 2y ago
Now the question is where to find American companies willing to do B2B/freelance contract without location-adjusted bs.
- thrw42A8N 2y ago
  Nowhere in Europe unless you want to never have free time during daytime. If they don't location adjust, they expect you to be available in their timezone. If you're OK with that, just visit the US and make some friends. Go to meetups and conferences. You will definitely find something much better than any EU offer (while still wildly underpaid in California) - that's your starting point. Do a good job, underpromise and overdeliver, and ask for referrals.
- hn_throwaway_99 2y ago
  What you call "location adjusted bs" is actually just supply and demand. The supply of good, experienced software developers willing to work for $100k in the Bay Area is practically non-existent when "normal", nothing-special suburban houses there can go for a couple million. There are a much higher supply of developers willing to work for that in Poland because the CoL is so much lower. Similarly, a gigantic reason American companies hire overseas in the first place is because wages are lower outside the US. Without that wage differential most of those jobs wouldn't exist.

downrightmike 2y ago

Not with that attitude

n_ary 2y ago

Germany needs to regulate a mandatory posting of the pay range with every job being posted. The power dynamic is very skewed towards employers because when you send in your application, you must also indicate your pay expectations but employers (except select few) never post the pay ranges. In the end what happens is that, two seniors in the same team will earn in 50-70% difference while doing the same duties.