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> You mean like when they called... Kamala said none of this and was repeatedly way too nice to Trump. In addition, some of this is just factual. Trump has sa

> You mean like when they called... Kamala said none of this and was repeatedly way too nice to Trump. In addition, some of this is just factual. Trump has said racist things. Trump supporters did attempt an insurrection. Trump supporters have used violence. Those aren't up for debate, so don't attempt to try, because I really don't care for alternative facts. > Then you must necessarily be every -ist and -phobe they can think of, and many of them will hate your guts from then on. When Trump is questioning how black people are and the right is running ads depicting trans women as burly men who beat up little girls (yes, real), it's hard not to see where the "ist and -phobe" comes from. Conservatives often get very offended when you repeat policy and political speech their representatives have said back to them. It's incredibly strange to me, I've never seen such an overwhelming amount of personal shame in a population. It's difficult to claim you're not transphobic when you vote for the people proposing anti-trans legislation. Actions speak much louder than words, and conservatives are already pretty bad at the words part. When your representatives aren't saying something racist or transphobic, they're passing laws with that ideology. Which... is worse. If that offends you, feel free not to vote for them. But voting for them and then crying when someone simply tells you their policy or literally quotes them is nothing short of pathetic. If you don't agree with the things Trump has said, then don't put him on your ballot. > She denied being black for years, then flipped the script This isn't true, and I'm not gonna sit here and debate how black Kamala is. This is one of the stupidest points the conservatives have brought up. She's always been biracial, end of. Even humoring this line of thinking displays some amount of racist rhetoric. There's absolutely zero reason you should be concerned with how black Kamala is. It's weird, it's strange, it's not normal. Please stop. > I don't want our political discourse to be lowered any more How rich. Instead of talking about Trump's absolutely horrible fiscal policy, we're talking about how black Kamala is. But you don't want political discourse to be lowered any further? Give me a break. Modern conservatives couldn't articulate Trump's fiscal policy if their lives depended on it. They couldn't describe how tariffs work if you put a gun to their head. But they can tell you that kids are getting sex changes in the school nurse's office and shitting in litter boxes, and they can sit around all day and debate how black Kamala is. Trump has lowered the political discourse to an almost Neanderthal level. It's truly absurd to me that you can look at the right jumping all-in to identity politics and stuff nobody should care about and then complain about lowering the level of discourse.

peppal 2y ago
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- consteval 2y ago
  This type of rhetoric is why people believe the republicans peddle the culture war and why you're constantly called -ists and -phobes. If your political ideology is built on a foundation of disparaging whatever minority of the day, people won't take you seriously. There are actual issues you should be addressing. The culture war as peddled by Republicans is nothing more than a distraction from their unbelievably garbage fiscal policy. And it's worked well - most Trump voters cannot articulate Trump's fiscal policy at all. What you, and others, are missing is a sense of scale and perspective. Transgender individuals are an unbelievably small part of our society and truly mean no harm. They are Americans like you and I. They want to be happy, live and prosper. Their goals are your goals. They are not your enemy, and they couldn't be even if they wanted to. You may not understand them, and that's fine. But be wary of scapegoating such a minuscule minority for the problems of America. Such ideology veers dangerously close to fascism.
  - wakawaka28 2y ago
    >If your political ideology is built on a foundation of disparaging whatever minority of the day, people won't take you seriously. Pfft that's nothing. The Democrats disparage the majority! That's why they are not taken seriously. >The culture war as peddled by Republicans is nothing more than a distraction from their unbelievably garbage fiscal policy. And it's worked well - most Trump voters cannot articulate Trump's fiscal policy at all. Kamala's voters can't articulate a lick of fiscal policy. It boils down to "everyone gets a free pony, two if you're not a white man!" The left has been all in on culture war and everyone is sick of it. >Transgender individuals are an unbelievably small part of our society and truly mean no harm. Generally I think this is true. But it sure doesn't help when some of them go on a rampage and the media covers it up as has happened multiple times in the past couple of years. Conservatives are fine with these people existing but just don't want their kids indoctrinated with their delusions. >They are Americans like you and I. They want to be happy, live and prosper. Their goals are your goals. Most of them seem to mind their own business in my experience. But when it comes to dudes in women's spaces or "trans children" most people are absolutely disgusted and will not tolerate policies that support those notions. I think it would be a good start if the sane trans people came out and loudly condemned that stuff. But the ones that have come out and done exactly that have been vilified by their community. It's sick. The left has painted itself into a corner. They made unpopular policies pandering to at most 1% of the population their flagship issue. How about going back to a strict policy of "Do whatever weird stuff you want in your own bedroom, but be respectful and don't talk to kids about it!" >But be wary of scapegoating such a minuscule minority for the problems of America. Nobody really thinks these people cause all the problems with America. They are but a distraction, and a very effective one at that. >Such ideology veers dangerously close to fascism. All the censorship and political prosecution of non-crimes has veered dangerously close to fascism. But yeah, let's worry about people who don't want their kids brainwashed into sex change procedures.

peppal 2y ago

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consteval 2y ago
This type of rhetoric is why people believe the republicans peddle the culture war and why you're constantly called -ists and -phobes. If your political ideology is built on a foundation of disparaging whatever minority of the day, people won't take you seriously. There are actual issues you should be addressing. The culture war as peddled by Republicans is nothing more than a distraction from their unbelievably garbage fiscal policy. And it's worked well - most Trump voters cannot articulate Trump's fiscal policy at all. What you, and others, are missing is a sense of scale and perspective. Transgender individuals are an unbelievably small part of our society and truly mean no harm. They are Americans like you and I. They want to be happy, live and prosper. Their goals are your goals. They are not your enemy, and they couldn't be even if they wanted to. You may not understand them, and that's fine. But be wary of scapegoating such a minuscule minority for the problems of America. Such ideology veers dangerously close to fascism.
- wakawaka28 2y ago
  >If your political ideology is built on a foundation of disparaging whatever minority of the day, people won't take you seriously. Pfft that's nothing. The Democrats disparage the majority! That's why they are not taken seriously. >The culture war as peddled by Republicans is nothing more than a distraction from their unbelievably garbage fiscal policy. And it's worked well - most Trump voters cannot articulate Trump's fiscal policy at all. Kamala's voters can't articulate a lick of fiscal policy. It boils down to "everyone gets a free pony, two if you're not a white man!" The left has been all in on culture war and everyone is sick of it. >Transgender individuals are an unbelievably small part of our society and truly mean no harm. Generally I think this is true. But it sure doesn't help when some of them go on a rampage and the media covers it up as has happened multiple times in the past couple of years. Conservatives are fine with these people existing but just don't want their kids indoctrinated with their delusions. >They are Americans like you and I. They want to be happy, live and prosper. Their goals are your goals. Most of them seem to mind their own business in my experience. But when it comes to dudes in women's spaces or "trans children" most people are absolutely disgusted and will not tolerate policies that support those notions. I think it would be a good start if the sane trans people came out and loudly condemned that stuff. But the ones that have come out and done exactly that have been vilified by their community. It's sick. The left has painted itself into a corner. They made unpopular policies pandering to at most 1% of the population their flagship issue. How about going back to a strict policy of "Do whatever weird stuff you want in your own bedroom, but be respectful and don't talk to kids about it!" >But be wary of scapegoating such a minuscule minority for the problems of America. Nobody really thinks these people cause all the problems with America. They are but a distraction, and a very effective one at that. >Such ideology veers dangerously close to fascism. All the censorship and political prosecution of non-crimes has veered dangerously close to fascism. But yeah, let's worry about people who don't want their kids brainwashed into sex change procedures.