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I wonder if I'll ever give a damn about AI LLM and the like. Maybe that's the generational barrier. I find that topic so uninteresting, like cars or kitchen app

I wonder if I'll ever give a damn about AI LLM and the like. Maybe that's the generational barrier. I find that topic so uninteresting, like cars or kitchen apparatuses, or home electronics of the 70s. I see the technology as energy burning or rather wasting and not beneficial to human evolution and survival, the contrary. It's not because of the unknown, it will also replace me and remove the joy of building something on my own. But I bet in 20 30 years it will be like DJing back in the 90s and DJing now. DJing back then was manual work and art, required skill. DJing now is mostly effortless and could even be automated, with AI too. It's more of a performance show than mixing skill and art. Creating something new will be a matter of just defining what you'd like your result to be (as already is the case very often) and refining the steps. Instead of writing code, you'll be writing or speaking with an AI, which will then generate code. When I started coding at the age of 11, that was the dream. But I still can't find the motivation to deal with AI. I'm 49 now, soon 50.

ikt 2y ago
I get what you're saying, I was watching this the other day: Titanic (1997) - Iceberg,Right ahead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYOn3-PhA9c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYOn3-PhA9c It's all so incredibly manual, from the guys who literally stand at the front of the ship just looking out for icebergs, to the man running and pulling on a giant ringing lever of some kind to tell the engine room what to do, the guys in the engine room running around in a panic, yelling orders across the room, turning giant wheels, the levers being pulled to shut the engine down, the guys manually shovelling coal stopping and shutting the boilers... it's all so manual Meanwhile today a majority of that is fully automated and/or a few clicks of a button The movie would be a hell of a lot more boring today! Titanic 2024 edition: Some random person most likely: Iceberg right ahead! Random staff member: We know... we're going around it But your comment reminds of this: What will AI Programming look like in 5 Years? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaedq1Jl2fc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaedq1Jl2fc It's the same I see with ICE engines vs EV's, and smart phones and laptops compared to desktops All the manual work in the world is going away... but I guess if you're really itching for manual work farming and the trades don't seem to be going anywhere... yet As to AI, I quite like it, I use: https://www.nomic.ai/gpt4all https://www.nomic.ai/gpt4all Which runs LLM's on my local PC which is running on my solar and solar battery, so no co2 emissions ^^ and as I have trouble learning, sometimes I have to search for 5 to 10 websites explaining something before I 'get it', with AI it helps for me to poke it and go, explain this, almost like a second person is there just to try and help, sometimes it helps, sometimes it doesn't. Same with coding, sometimes it might just give me an idea or a thought that I wouldn't of had without it that gets me closer to where I want go.
- ilhuadjkv 2y ago
  Great post
dimal 2y ago
I’m 53 and use LLMs all the time. I admit I think my pre-LLM process was different than many people. I’d create the first version that barely works, then spend a lot of time refining and refactoring, simplifying things, bit by bit. I get the sense that many developers only like the first part where you get things working and they don’t like re-factoring and refining. LLMS often allow me to get the basic implementation done much quicker, leaving me more time for simplifying, which is the part I enjoy.
nuancebydefault 2y ago
> I'm 49 now, soon 50. I'm 49 now, soon 50! I started coding around the same age as you. Interesting. I use and am impressed with LLM's quite often in a rather basic[ copy problem / understand more of it / paste solution ] way. Probably I will use them inside of IDE's as soon as they are good enough to understand a rather large or complex repo, which today is more hit or miss with files you put at its front.
ilhuadjkv 2y ago
Similar age. My answer to get motivation is this: Take on something much more difficult than you are currently calibrated to do. AI is freaking awesome. Whatever project I choose to do now can be more complex or difficult than previously.

ikt 2y ago

I get what you're saying, I was watching this the other day: Titanic (1997) - Iceberg,Right ahead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYOn3-PhA9c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYOn3-PhA9c It's all so incredibly manual, from the guys who literally stand at the front of the ship just looking out for icebergs, to the man running and pulling on a giant ringing lever of some kind to tell the engine room what to do, the guys in the engine room running around in a panic, yelling orders across the room, turning giant wheels, the levers being pulled to shut the engine down, the guys manually shovelling coal stopping and shutting the boilers... it's all so manual Meanwhile today a majority of that is fully automated and/or a few clicks of a button The movie would be a hell of a lot more boring today! Titanic 2024 edition: Some random person most likely: Iceberg right ahead! Random staff member: We know... we're going around it But your comment reminds of this: What will AI Programming look like in 5 Years? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaedq1Jl2fc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaedq1Jl2fc It's the same I see with ICE engines vs EV's, and smart phones and laptops compared to desktops All the manual work in the world is going away... but I guess if you're really itching for manual work farming and the trades don't seem to be going anywhere... yet As to AI, I quite like it, I use: https://www.nomic.ai/gpt4all https://www.nomic.ai/gpt4all Which runs LLM's on my local PC which is running on my solar and solar battery, so no co2 emissions ^^ and as I have trouble learning, sometimes I have to search for 5 to 10 websites explaining something before I 'get it', with AI it helps for me to poke it and go, explain this, almost like a second person is there just to try and help, sometimes it helps, sometimes it doesn't. Same with coding, sometimes it might just give me an idea or a thought that I wouldn't of had without it that gets me closer to where I want go.

ilhuadjkv 2y ago
Great post

dimal 2y ago

I’m 53 and use LLMs all the time. I admit I think my pre-LLM process was different than many people. I’d create the first version that barely works, then spend a lot of time refining and refactoring, simplifying things, bit by bit. I get the sense that many developers only like the first part where you get things working and they don’t like re-factoring and refining. LLMS often allow me to get the basic implementation done much quicker, leaving me more time for simplifying, which is the part I enjoy.

nuancebydefault 2y ago

> I'm 49 now, soon 50. I'm 49 now, soon 50! I started coding around the same age as you. Interesting. I use and am impressed with LLM's quite often in a rather basic[ copy problem / understand more of it / paste solution ] way. Probably I will use them inside of IDE's as soon as they are good enough to understand a rather large or complex repo, which today is more hit or miss with files you put at its front.

ilhuadjkv 2y ago

Similar age. My answer to get motivation is this: Take on something much more difficult than you are currently calibrated to do. AI is freaking awesome. Whatever project I choose to do now can be more complex or difficult than previously.