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someone please explain to the author what Open Source means and why Mozilla pulling their own people off an Open source project doesn't prevent that project fro

by ABS 14y ago

someone please explain to the author what Open Source means and why Mozilla pulling their own people off an Open source project doesn't prevent that project from continuing

wmf 14y ago
Someone please explain to ABS that open source isn't magic and in many cases the community does not have enough resources or will to continue development of a product (see Camino).
- ABS 14y ago
  You are missing the point. It's quite possible no one will pick it up but that's completely different from saying, sarcastically, "But it’s not stopping? Right". What the above is is ignorance of what it means to develop open source code. EDIT: an please let's try and stop this trend here on HN of replying to comments ignoring half of them. I wrote "doesn't prevent that project from continuing" not "it will definitely find other people to carry on"
  - pooriaazimi 14y ago
    It's TechCrunch, don't expect them to know about software (not that any other major tech publication, except maybe Ars, is any better than TC. Almost none of their writers have the slightest clue about the software).
    - ibotty 14y ago
      there is lwn and (to a much lesser degree) heise.
      - pooriaazimi 14y ago
        Thanks. I didn't know about them and must check them out. But now that I think about it again, I think I was a little harsh. There are plenty of good news sites about Open Source software and community.
  - zobzu 14y ago
    Actually - TB will die. That is, it'll be maintained, but it wont keep pace. It already did not, while it had PAID employees on it. Now, it's the same, except theres zero paid employees on it. No one's interested into making it better. Wish I was wrong.
  - wmf 14y ago
    After re-reading the TC article, I think the "Right?" comment has more to do with calling out corporate doublespeak than open source. You're right that nothing is preventing the community from developing Thunderbird, but realistically it appears that there has been very little community contribution in the past so without Mozilla's funding it's a safe prediction that development will virtually stop.
dbcooper 14y ago
If you want to contribute to Thunderbird in order to improve its UX, then the "parity with Postbox" meta-bug would be a good place to start. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737347 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737347

by ABS 14y ago

someone please explain to the author what Open Source means and why Mozilla pulling their own people off an Open source project doesn't prevent that project from continuing

wmf 14y ago

Someone please explain to ABS that open source isn't magic and in many cases the community does not have enough resources or will to continue development of a product (see Camino).

ABS 14y ago
You are missing the point. It's quite possible no one will pick it up but that's completely different from saying, sarcastically, "But it’s not stopping? Right". What the above is is ignorance of what it means to develop open source code. EDIT: an please let's try and stop this trend here on HN of replying to comments ignoring half of them. I wrote "doesn't prevent that project from continuing" not "it will definitely find other people to carry on"
- pooriaazimi 14y ago
  It's TechCrunch, don't expect them to know about software (not that any other major tech publication, except maybe Ars, is any better than TC. Almost none of their writers have the slightest clue about the software).
  - ibotty 14y ago
    there is lwn and (to a much lesser degree) heise.
    - pooriaazimi 14y ago
      Thanks. I didn't know about them and must check them out. But now that I think about it again, I think I was a little harsh. There are plenty of good news sites about Open Source software and community.
- zobzu 14y ago
  Actually - TB will die. That is, it'll be maintained, but it wont keep pace. It already did not, while it had PAID employees on it. Now, it's the same, except theres zero paid employees on it. No one's interested into making it better. Wish I was wrong.
- wmf 14y ago
  After re-reading the TC article, I think the "Right?" comment has more to do with calling out corporate doublespeak than open source. You're right that nothing is preventing the community from developing Thunderbird, but realistically it appears that there has been very little community contribution in the past so without Mozilla's funding it's a safe prediction that development will virtually stop.

dbcooper 14y ago

If you want to contribute to Thunderbird in order to improve its UX, then the "parity with Postbox" meta-bug would be a good place to start. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737347 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737347