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Mullvad will drop OpenVPN support

16 points by jrnkntl 2y ago

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serf 2y ago
so long and thanks for all the fish. I love wireguard and the configuration methods compared to openvpn.
big-green-man 2y ago
This is a good decision all things considered, but there are plenty of hardware vendors with proprietary firmware that only support ovpn and now mullvad is unusable for them. I suppose the onus is on them to support wireguard, but still think of how long it took python3 to become standard after it was released, I hope to see wireguard become the standard soon but I expect lots of vendors will take their time on the transition.
- Arnt 2y ago
  By "now" you mean "starting in 2026". Which raises the question: how much warning do you think is reasonable?
  - big-green-man 2y ago
    I think whatever warning is OK with the users who pay them. There's a feedback mechanism there, they get paid more the more customers they have. I don't know how most mullvad users use it, but I've never used their ovpn configurations, and I use it on client devices and not some network gateway. It's not going to affect me one bit. I've considered using it on some network hardware I have that only supports openvpn to give myself network wide benefits of it, but because I often use it on my clients to change IPs, and otherwise cycle through different servers as needed, haven't made that move yet. So even if I wanted to, I'd probably have to do a custom solution which means I can use wireguard anyway.
jauntywundrkind 2y ago
Never been a Mullvad user, but namespaced-openvpn (https://github.com/slingamn/namespaced-openvpn https://github.com/slingamn/namespaced-openvpn) was one of the only ways to torrent-over-proxies that I found (years ago); user namespace with the torrent client & openvpn as it's only link out. Not sure what else folks do for this use case.
- c0balt 2y ago
  There is gluetun, https://github.com/qdm12/gluetun https://github.com/qdm12/gluetun, which servers a similar purpose whole supporting ovpn and wireguard (including prepared configs for various commercial VPN providers). It's usable with, e. g., Docker to have namespace-based proxying of traffic for a container.
- duskwuff 2y ago
  Wireguard can be used in a network namespace. https://www.wireguard.com/netns/ https://www.wireguard.com/netns/

16 points by jrnkntl 2y ago

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serf 2y ago

so long and thanks for all the fish. I love wireguard and the configuration methods compared to openvpn.

big-green-man 2y ago

This is a good decision all things considered, but there are plenty of hardware vendors with proprietary firmware that only support ovpn and now mullvad is unusable for them. I suppose the onus is on them to support wireguard, but still think of how long it took python3 to become standard after it was released, I hope to see wireguard become the standard soon but I expect lots of vendors will take their time on the transition.

Arnt 2y ago
By "now" you mean "starting in 2026". Which raises the question: how much warning do you think is reasonable?
- big-green-man 2y ago
  I think whatever warning is OK with the users who pay them. There's a feedback mechanism there, they get paid more the more customers they have. I don't know how most mullvad users use it, but I've never used their ovpn configurations, and I use it on client devices and not some network gateway. It's not going to affect me one bit. I've considered using it on some network hardware I have that only supports openvpn to give myself network wide benefits of it, but because I often use it on my clients to change IPs, and otherwise cycle through different servers as needed, haven't made that move yet. So even if I wanted to, I'd probably have to do a custom solution which means I can use wireguard anyway.

jauntywundrkind 2y ago

Never been a Mullvad user, but namespaced-openvpn (https://github.com/slingamn/namespaced-openvpn https://github.com/slingamn/namespaced-openvpn) was one of the only ways to torrent-over-proxies that I found (years ago); user namespace with the torrent client & openvpn as it's only link out. Not sure what else folks do for this use case.

c0balt 2y ago
There is gluetun, https://github.com/qdm12/gluetun https://github.com/qdm12/gluetun, which servers a similar purpose whole supporting ovpn and wireguard (including prepared configs for various commercial VPN providers). It's usable with, e. g., Docker to have namespace-based proxying of traffic for a container.
duskwuff 2y ago
Wireguard can be used in a network namespace. https://www.wireguard.com/netns/ https://www.wireguard.com/netns/