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Could you elaborate? How do those things relate, in the picture you're suggesting?

immibis 2y ago
Presumably that they are all instances of the American government suppressing its citizens.
thr0waway_abcd 2y ago
The next term will contain several friends and believers in NRx. They have the mandate of the voters. The question is if they will actually try to enact Yarvinism. Essentially a carbon-copy of RAGE is said to be happening, but will it stop there? In terms of crypto, I imagine their plan would involve the fed. Powell isn't out until 2026, but maybe they have a way around that. Crypto aligned figures like Balaji who have a similar worldview are seemingly starting to try to manufacture consent for a "reorganization" with respect to the fed.
- tdeck 2y ago
  > believers in NRx > enact Yarvinism > carbon-copy of RAGE Is there someone who can translate this obscure set of references?
  - dmicah 2y ago
    These are all concepts related to Curtis Yarvin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin
  - thr0waway_abcd 2y ago
    NRx - neo-reactionary movement Yarvinism - the political ideals of Curtis Yarvin. Openly a friend of Thiel and Vance. I don't know about Musk, he may be a more recent convert. RAGE - Retire All Government Employees, the first step of Yarvin's plan. Further reading: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0263276421999439 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/026327642199943...
    - sourcepluck 2y ago
      Thank you for the link! Looks like a serious thing, I'm reminded of Mark Fisher after browsing a few paragraphs. Excellent. For people that don't click it for whatever reason, it looks very interesting, here's some metadata: Journal: Theory, Culture & Society Date of publication: 2021, Vol. 38(6) 143–166 Title: Software, Sovereignty and the Post-Neoliberal Politics of Exit And the abstract: > This paper examines the impact of neoreactionary (NRx) thinking – that of Curtis Yarvin, Nick Land, Peter Thiel and Patri Friedman in particular – on contemporary political debates manifest in ‘architectures of exit’. We specifically focus on Urbit, as an NRx digital architecture that captures how post-neoliberal politics imagines notions of freedom and sovereignty through a micro-fracturing of nation-states into ‘gov-corps’. We trace the development of NRx philosophy – and situate this within contemporary political and technological change to theorize the significance of exit manifest within the notion of ‘dynamic geographies’. While technological programmes such as Urbit may never ultimately succeed, we argue that these, and other speculative investments such as ‘seasteading’, reflect broader post-neoliberal NRx imaginaries that were, perhaps, prefigured a quarter of a century ago in The Sovereign Individual.
    - r721 2y ago
      See also this on Thiel/Vance/Yarvin ties (from 2022): >Inside the New Right, Where Peter Thiel Is Placing His Biggest Bets https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/inside-the-new-right-where-peter-thiel-is-placing-his-biggest-bets https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/inside-the-new-right...
  - season2episode3 2y ago
    I had to look this up. - NRx = New Reactionism - Yarvinism = replacing democracy with “accountable dictatorship” (resembling corporate governance, with a hopefully benevolent dictator + a board) - RAGE = Retire All Government Employees Sounds like a Peter Thiel wet dream

Presumably that they are all instances of the American government suppressing its citizens.

The next term will contain several friends and believers in NRx. They have the mandate of the voters. The question is if they will actually try to enact Yarvinism. Essentially a carbon-copy of RAGE is said to be happening, but will it stop there? In terms of crypto, I imagine their plan would involve the fed. Powell isn't out until 2026, but maybe they have a way around that. Crypto aligned figures like Balaji who have a similar worldview are seemingly starting to try to manufacture consent for a "reorganization" with respect to the fed.

tdeck 2y ago
> believers in NRx > enact Yarvinism > carbon-copy of RAGE Is there someone who can translate this obscure set of references?
- dmicah 2y ago
  These are all concepts related to Curtis Yarvin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin
- thr0waway_abcd 2y ago
  NRx - neo-reactionary movement Yarvinism - the political ideals of Curtis Yarvin. Openly a friend of Thiel and Vance. I don't know about Musk, he may be a more recent convert. RAGE - Retire All Government Employees, the first step of Yarvin's plan. Further reading: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0263276421999439 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/026327642199943...
  - sourcepluck 2y ago
    Thank you for the link! Looks like a serious thing, I'm reminded of Mark Fisher after browsing a few paragraphs. Excellent. For people that don't click it for whatever reason, it looks very interesting, here's some metadata: Journal: Theory, Culture & Society Date of publication: 2021, Vol. 38(6) 143–166 Title: Software, Sovereignty and the Post-Neoliberal Politics of Exit And the abstract: > This paper examines the impact of neoreactionary (NRx) thinking – that of Curtis Yarvin, Nick Land, Peter Thiel and Patri Friedman in particular – on contemporary political debates manifest in ‘architectures of exit’. We specifically focus on Urbit, as an NRx digital architecture that captures how post-neoliberal politics imagines notions of freedom and sovereignty through a micro-fracturing of nation-states into ‘gov-corps’. We trace the development of NRx philosophy – and situate this within contemporary political and technological change to theorize the significance of exit manifest within the notion of ‘dynamic geographies’. While technological programmes such as Urbit may never ultimately succeed, we argue that these, and other speculative investments such as ‘seasteading’, reflect broader post-neoliberal NRx imaginaries that were, perhaps, prefigured a quarter of a century ago in The Sovereign Individual.
  - r721 2y ago
    See also this on Thiel/Vance/Yarvin ties (from 2022): >Inside the New Right, Where Peter Thiel Is Placing His Biggest Bets https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/inside-the-new-right-where-peter-thiel-is-placing-his-biggest-bets https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/inside-the-new-right...
- season2episode3 2y ago
  I had to look this up. - NRx = New Reactionism - Yarvinism = replacing democracy with “accountable dictatorship” (resembling corporate governance, with a hopefully benevolent dictator + a board) - RAGE = Retire All Government Employees Sounds like a Peter Thiel wet dream