>It reads, to me, that you're saying that if police don't lie, then civil society can break down? He's saying that if police doesn't have some flexibility (lik

>It reads, to me, that you're saying that if police don't lie, then civil society can break down? He's saying that if police doesn't have some flexibility (like using such tricks to get a suspect to confess), criminals end up getting to roam free, and this, all other things being equal, ends in a way worse society than one where police is allowed to cheat suspects.