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This is crazy what is happening with the US. Trump, Musk, Palantir, Crypto, it’s absolutely insane. I think Im more and more attracted to the offline as much as

This is crazy what is happening with the US. Trump, Musk, Palantir, Crypto, it’s absolutely insane. I think Im more and more attracted to the offline as much as possible, not that it would make a difference anyway.

mike_ivanov 2y ago
> what is happening with the US Nothing, actually [1] --- [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/379049a0 https://www.nature.com/articles/379049a0
sourcepluck 2y ago
Could you elaborate? How do those things relate, in the picture you're suggesting?
- immibis 2y ago
  Presumably that they are all instances of the American government suppressing its citizens.
- thr0waway_abcd 2y ago
  The next term will contain several friends and believers in NRx. They have the mandate of the voters. The question is if they will actually try to enact Yarvinism. Essentially a carbon-copy of RAGE is said to be happening, but will it stop there? In terms of crypto, I imagine their plan would involve the fed. Powell isn't out until 2026, but maybe they have a way around that. Crypto aligned figures like Balaji who have a similar worldview are seemingly starting to try to manufacture consent for a "reorganization" with respect to the fed.
  - tdeck 2y ago
    > believers in NRx > enact Yarvinism > carbon-copy of RAGE Is there someone who can translate this obscure set of references?
    - dmicah 2y ago
      These are all concepts related to Curtis Yarvin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin
    - thr0waway_abcd 2y ago
      NRx - neo-reactionary movement Yarvinism - the political ideals of Curtis Yarvin. Openly a friend of Thiel and Vance. I don't know about Musk, he may be a more recent convert. RAGE - Retire All Government Employees, the first step of Yarvin's plan. Further reading: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0263276421999439 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/026327642199943...
      - sourcepluck 2y ago
        Thank you for the link! Looks like a serious thing, I'm reminded of Mark Fisher after browsing a few paragraphs. Excellent. For people that don't click it for whatever reason, it looks very interesting, here's some metadata: Journal: Theory, Culture & Society Date of publication: 2021, Vol. 38(6) 143–166 Title: Software, Sovereignty and the Post-Neoliberal Politics of Exit And the abstract: > This paper examines the impact of neoreactionary (NRx) thinking – that of Curtis Yarvin, Nick Land, Peter Thiel and Patri Friedman in particular – on contemporary political debates manifest in ‘architectures of exit’. We specifically focus on Urbit, as an NRx digital architecture that captures how post-neoliberal politics imagines notions of freedom and sovereignty through a micro-fracturing of nation-states into ‘gov-corps’. We trace the development of NRx philosophy – and situate this within contemporary political and technological change to theorize the significance of exit manifest within the notion of ‘dynamic geographies’. While technological programmes such as Urbit may never ultimately succeed, we argue that these, and other speculative investments such as ‘seasteading’, reflect broader post-neoliberal NRx imaginaries that were, perhaps, prefigured a quarter of a century ago in The Sovereign Individual.
      - r721 2y ago
        See also this on Thiel/Vance/Yarvin ties (from 2022): >Inside the New Right, Where Peter Thiel Is Placing His Biggest Bets https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/inside-the-new-right-where-peter-thiel-is-placing-his-biggest-bets https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/inside-the-new-right...
Mistletoe 2y ago
Please don’t lump crypto with all those things. It can be an agent for great change and equality. It’s verifiable truth and the others are the opposite of that.
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- immibis 2y ago
  crypto is just a carbon copy of money with all the same downsides and upsides. It's like moving from Twitter to Threads: It's pretty much the same thing with only slight changes and a different guy/algorithm in charge.
  - staplers 2y ago
    crypto is just a carbon copy of money with all the same downsides and upsides One of the most ignorant things I've read in a long time.
    - immibis 2y ago
      Have you ever experienced crypto in any way other than number go up?
      - Jerrrrrrry 2y ago
        no officer
    - TrackerFF 2y ago
      Can anyone give a good argument for how cryptocurrencies have been a net benefit for the world?
      - Jerrrrrrry 2y ago
        Begging the question all the while Q.E.D. Have currencies been a "net" benefit?
thr0waway_abcd 2y ago
It's all out in the open, I can't be alone in seeing it, right? Am I insane? Are the people who could do something about this paying attention?
- IAmGraydon 2y ago
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  - thr0waway_abcd 2y ago
    To be clear, I am very much not a fan of these ideas. I find it very worrying how close their proximity to power will be, particularly given the set of circumstances. The throwaway is simply that I work in tech and I don't want to have commented negatively on them in a way associated with me.
  - mondrian 2y ago
    JD Vance is on record mentioning Yarvin’s ideas as inspirational for how republicans should run government.
  - jawngee 2y ago
    It's pretty well documented the connection between JD Vance and Curtis Yarvin. "There's this guy, Curtis Yarvin. Who's written about some of these things. A lot of concerns that said we should deconstruct the administrative state. We should basically eliminate the administrative state. And I'm sympathetic to that project. But another option is that we should just seize the administrative state for our own purposes." - JD Vance in 2021
akkartik 2y ago
There's a variety of reasons to do it, and I didn't really plan it out in advance, but over the last couple of years I've found myself gradually transitioning my digital life to thick-client mode. I've been thin-client pretty much all my life, starting with college where I didn't own a computer and everything lived somewhere I "went to", then when I bought my first Windows laptop but would ssh into university servers to do anything (I'd already burnt out on installing Linux for other people). When I built my own website it seemed natural (but with hindsight, not the ideal security posture) to treat it as my home. Over time I started saving a backup of my digital home locally. But for a long time it was just a backup. The source of truth in my mind was in the cloud. Most of what has happened recently is a piecemeal inversion where I start thinking of the local copy of various things as the ground truth. Eventually I noticed my cloud server was altogether too beefy for a tiny website and a glorified backup server. I moved the data to a dedicated backup service and started pushing backups up from my laptop. Then I downsized the server; all it needs to do now is run the website. The appropriate use of the cloud is communications and backups. Everything else should be local.
oldpersonintx 2y ago
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mike_ivanov 2y ago

> what is happening with the US Nothing, actually [1] --- [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/379049a0 https://www.nature.com/articles/379049a0

sourcepluck 2y ago

Could you elaborate? How do those things relate, in the picture you're suggesting?

immibis 2y ago
Presumably that they are all instances of the American government suppressing its citizens.
thr0waway_abcd 2y ago
The next term will contain several friends and believers in NRx. They have the mandate of the voters. The question is if they will actually try to enact Yarvinism. Essentially a carbon-copy of RAGE is said to be happening, but will it stop there? In terms of crypto, I imagine their plan would involve the fed. Powell isn't out until 2026, but maybe they have a way around that. Crypto aligned figures like Balaji who have a similar worldview are seemingly starting to try to manufacture consent for a "reorganization" with respect to the fed.
- tdeck 2y ago
  > believers in NRx > enact Yarvinism > carbon-copy of RAGE Is there someone who can translate this obscure set of references?
  - dmicah 2y ago
    These are all concepts related to Curtis Yarvin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin
  - thr0waway_abcd 2y ago
    NRx - neo-reactionary movement Yarvinism - the political ideals of Curtis Yarvin. Openly a friend of Thiel and Vance. I don't know about Musk, he may be a more recent convert. RAGE - Retire All Government Employees, the first step of Yarvin's plan. Further reading: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0263276421999439 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/026327642199943...
    - sourcepluck 2y ago
      Thank you for the link! Looks like a serious thing, I'm reminded of Mark Fisher after browsing a few paragraphs. Excellent. For people that don't click it for whatever reason, it looks very interesting, here's some metadata: Journal: Theory, Culture & Society Date of publication: 2021, Vol. 38(6) 143–166 Title: Software, Sovereignty and the Post-Neoliberal Politics of Exit And the abstract: > This paper examines the impact of neoreactionary (NRx) thinking – that of Curtis Yarvin, Nick Land, Peter Thiel and Patri Friedman in particular – on contemporary political debates manifest in ‘architectures of exit’. We specifically focus on Urbit, as an NRx digital architecture that captures how post-neoliberal politics imagines notions of freedom and sovereignty through a micro-fracturing of nation-states into ‘gov-corps’. We trace the development of NRx philosophy – and situate this within contemporary political and technological change to theorize the significance of exit manifest within the notion of ‘dynamic geographies’. While technological programmes such as Urbit may never ultimately succeed, we argue that these, and other speculative investments such as ‘seasteading’, reflect broader post-neoliberal NRx imaginaries that were, perhaps, prefigured a quarter of a century ago in The Sovereign Individual.
    - r721 2y ago
      See also this on Thiel/Vance/Yarvin ties (from 2022): >Inside the New Right, Where Peter Thiel Is Placing His Biggest Bets https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/inside-the-new-right-where-peter-thiel-is-placing-his-biggest-bets https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04/inside-the-new-right...

Mistletoe 2y ago

Please don’t lump crypto with all those things. It can be an agent for great change and equality. It’s verifiable truth and the others are the opposite of that.

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immibis 2y ago
crypto is just a carbon copy of money with all the same downsides and upsides. It's like moving from Twitter to Threads: It's pretty much the same thing with only slight changes and a different guy/algorithm in charge.
- staplers 2y ago
  crypto is just a carbon copy of money with all the same downsides and upsides One of the most ignorant things I've read in a long time.
  - immibis 2y ago
    Have you ever experienced crypto in any way other than number go up?
    - Jerrrrrrry 2y ago
      no officer
  - TrackerFF 2y ago
    Can anyone give a good argument for how cryptocurrencies have been a net benefit for the world?
    - Jerrrrrrry 2y ago
      Begging the question all the while Q.E.D. Have currencies been a "net" benefit?

thr0waway_abcd 2y ago

It's all out in the open, I can't be alone in seeing it, right? Am I insane? Are the people who could do something about this paying attention?

IAmGraydon 2y ago
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- thr0waway_abcd 2y ago
  To be clear, I am very much not a fan of these ideas. I find it very worrying how close their proximity to power will be, particularly given the set of circumstances. The throwaway is simply that I work in tech and I don't want to have commented negatively on them in a way associated with me.
- mondrian 2y ago
  JD Vance is on record mentioning Yarvin’s ideas as inspirational for how republicans should run government.
- jawngee 2y ago
  It's pretty well documented the connection between JD Vance and Curtis Yarvin. "There's this guy, Curtis Yarvin. Who's written about some of these things. A lot of concerns that said we should deconstruct the administrative state. We should basically eliminate the administrative state. And I'm sympathetic to that project. But another option is that we should just seize the administrative state for our own purposes." - JD Vance in 2021

akkartik 2y ago

There's a variety of reasons to do it, and I didn't really plan it out in advance, but over the last couple of years I've found myself gradually transitioning my digital life to thick-client mode. I've been thin-client pretty much all my life, starting with college where I didn't own a computer and everything lived somewhere I "went to", then when I bought my first Windows laptop but would ssh into university servers to do anything (I'd already burnt out on installing Linux for other people). When I built my own website it seemed natural (but with hindsight, not the ideal security posture) to treat it as my home. Over time I started saving a backup of my digital home locally. But for a long time it was just a backup. The source of truth in my mind was in the cloud. Most of what has happened recently is a piecemeal inversion where I start thinking of the local copy of various things as the ground truth. Eventually I noticed my cloud server was altogether too beefy for a tiny website and a glorified backup server. I moved the data to a dedicated backup service and started pushing backups up from my laptop. Then I downsized the server; all it needs to do now is run the website. The appropriate use of the cloud is communications and backups. Everything else should be local.

oldpersonintx 2y ago

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