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Lying in order to get a financial benefit is called fraud and of course is generally illegal.

• coldtea 2y ago
  If lying to gain some financial benefit was illegal, the close to trillion dollar advertising industry wouldn't exist.
  • lazide 2y ago
    Ah, but that is ‘mere puffery’. [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puffery https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puffery] It’s the difference between saying ‘I’ve got the best car ever, it’s amazing!’, and ‘my car has a V8’ when it does not.
    • scotty79 2y ago
      That's how Elon Musk avoided jail so far.
      • lazide 2y ago
        Eh, I’d say it’s more the $300 billion net worth personally.
        • scotty79 2y ago
          Money is the real reason. Puffery is an official legally sanctioned excuse.
  • ranger_danger 2y ago
    The problem is different people have their own interpretations of the word "lying", including courts and judges.
• JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > Lying in order to get a financial benefit is called fraud and of course is generally illegal Sure. They’re not. They’re lying to get coöperation from criminal suspects for no financial gain. Similar but categorically different. Should our diplomats be required to divulge state secrets if asked nicely? Even acknowledge them? This is HN—we’ve been proximate to or even held power, corporate potentially state. Policing is adversarial. No lying outside arrest, sure, but once in custody, the cops should be allowed to lie but not materially mislead you in respect of your rights. Anything else doesn’t work to the point that it gets replaced with popular backing.
  • Loughla 2y ago
    On a completely different note, why did you put the umlaut on cooperation?
    • tedunangst 2y ago
      It's two syllables, not a digraph.