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"secret" "government" "Palantir" "AI" shudder (Hey, I thought Anthropic was going to be different.)

by insane_dreamer 2y ago

"secret" "government" "Palantir" "AI" *shudder* (Hey, I thought Anthropic was going to be different.)

dartos 2y ago
They are different. They’re backed by amazon instead of Microsoft
- ekianjo 2y ago
  Amazon has huge Pentagon contracts so it's in the same circle
  - Validark 2y ago
    Woosh. It was most likely facetious. The fact that one is Amazon and one is Microsoft is not a massive difference.
    - dartos 2y ago
      This is correct
- krick 2y ago
  That was... unexpected. Actually made me laugh.
- aix1 2y ago
  Amazon and Google :) https://www.forbes.com/sites/qai/2023/10/31/google-invests-in-anthropic-for-2-billion-as-ai-race-heats-up/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/qai/2023/10/31/google-invests-i...
  - dartos 2y ago
    Only 2B? I kind of feel like Microsoft got ripped off now.
    - aix1 2y ago
      I guess that depends on how this whole thing plays out over the long run.
thr0waway_abcd 2y ago
Palantir would more or less be as a part of the "government" if the Curtis Yarvin acolytes were to attempt and succeed at some form of Yarvinism next term. I think likely it would require replacing Powell, and maybe that can be stopped until 2026. But there's still an extremely frightening non-zero chance.
- UltraSane 2y ago
  I know what Palantir does and I kinda know about Yarvin but I don't know what they have to do with each other.
  - thr0waway_abcd 2y ago
    Thiel and Vance are both friends of Yarvin and followers of his ideas. Musk likely is as well due to his recent orbit into that world. And these ideas are floating around in various elite circles. In a Yarvinist world, there are no nation states, there is no liberalism, no conservatism, no democracy, no representative forms of government, only corporate fiefdoms. I would hope that it is concerning to people, the fact that these ideas are now so close to power, smuggled in behind a near perfect mandate. They inherit many sophisticated means of manufacturing consent. And they inherit if not total immunity to legal action, then a total lack of appetite for legal action.
    - UltraSane 2y ago
      Other than firing a lot of federal workers I don't really see how much Trump could implement Yarvinism.
      - thr0waway_abcd 2y ago
        In Yarvin's conception, the first step is "RAGE", "Retire All Government Employees". And I don't think it's going out on a limb to draw a parallel with Schedule F.
      - Hikikomori 2y ago

"secret" "government" "Palantir" "AI" *shudder* (Hey, I thought Anthropic was going to be different.)

dartos 2y ago

They are different. They’re backed by amazon instead of Microsoft

ekianjo 2y ago
Amazon has huge Pentagon contracts so it's in the same circle
- Validark 2y ago
  Woosh. It was most likely facetious. The fact that one is Amazon and one is Microsoft is not a massive difference.
  - dartos 2y ago
    This is correct
krick 2y ago
That was... unexpected. Actually made me laugh.
aix1 2y ago
Amazon and Google :) https://www.forbes.com/sites/qai/2023/10/31/google-invests-in-anthropic-for-2-billion-as-ai-race-heats-up/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/qai/2023/10/31/google-invests-i...
- dartos 2y ago
  Only 2B? I kind of feel like Microsoft got ripped off now.
  - aix1 2y ago
    I guess that depends on how this whole thing plays out over the long run.

thr0waway_abcd 2y ago

Palantir would more or less be as a part of the "government" if the Curtis Yarvin acolytes were to attempt and succeed at some form of Yarvinism next term. I think likely it would require replacing Powell, and maybe that can be stopped until 2026. But there's still an extremely frightening non-zero chance.

UltraSane 2y ago
I know what Palantir does and I kinda know about Yarvin but I don't know what they have to do with each other.
- thr0waway_abcd 2y ago
  Thiel and Vance are both friends of Yarvin and followers of his ideas. Musk likely is as well due to his recent orbit into that world. And these ideas are floating around in various elite circles. In a Yarvinist world, there are no nation states, there is no liberalism, no conservatism, no democracy, no representative forms of government, only corporate fiefdoms. I would hope that it is concerning to people, the fact that these ideas are now so close to power, smuggled in behind a near perfect mandate. They inherit many sophisticated means of manufacturing consent. And they inherit if not total immunity to legal action, then a total lack of appetite for legal action.
  - UltraSane 2y ago
    Other than firing a lot of federal workers I don't really see how much Trump could implement Yarvinism.
    - thr0waway_abcd 2y ago
      In Yarvin's conception, the first step is "RAGE", "Retire All Government Employees". And I don't think it's going out on a limb to draw a parallel with Schedule F.
    - Hikikomori 2y ago