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In what way are [1] not “full OSes”? They’re minimal templates, but afaik they still run systemd, the kernel, etc. needed to boot the standard Linux systems the

by ylk 2y ago

In what way are [1] not “full OSes”? They’re minimal templates, but afaik they still run systemd, the kernel, etc. needed to boot the standard Linux systems they are. When I clicked the link I was expecting something like a unikernel, eg https://roscidus.com/blog/blog/2016/01/01/a-unikernel-firewall-for-qubesos/ https://roscidus.com/blog/blog/2016/01/01/a-unikernel-firewa...

fsflover 2y ago
You certainly can run distros without systemd [0] or something very different like *BSD or Mirage [2]. [0] https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/devuan-or-other-non-systemd-templates/14734 https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/devuan-or-other-non-systemd-tem... https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/alpine-linux-template-non-official-available-for-testing/20595 https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/alpine-linux-template-non-offic... [1] https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/openbsd-as-a-ubes-os-component/29978 https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/openbsd-as-a-ubes-os-component/... [2] https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/mirage-firewall-0-9-0-released/26030 https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/mirage-firewall-0-9-0-released/...
- ylk 2y ago
  > You certainly can run distros without systemd Does it then become not a full OS anymore? Mirage is what I linked to above.
  - fsflover 2y ago
    > Does it then become not a full OS anymore? Probably not. I mentioned it, because you mentioned systemd. And yes, I saw your Mirage link and showed how you can use it on Qubes.