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It's not ridiculous at all, or koolaid, to quote Trump on his own policies. People aren't fear mongering about Trump dissolving the department of education, fo

It's not ridiculous at all, or koolaid, to quote Trump on his own policies. People aren't fear mongering about Trump dissolving the department of education, for example. He said he would. People are also not fear mongering about Trump deploying the military on US soil to clean out immigrants and naturalized citizens. He said he would. People are also not fear mongering about Trump surveilling and punishing women who go out of state to get an abortion. He said he would. People are not fear mongering when they say Trump will remove insurance protections that grant access to gender affirming care and PrEP. He said he would. This will directly result in many women dying, many homosexuals dying, and many trans people dying. This isn't up for debate, so don't bother trying. If you won't even listen to Trump on the things HE'S saying, why did you vote for him? This isn't rhetorical - if you don't agree with the things I've just said, why did you vote for him?

tervical 2y ago
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- falcolas 2y ago
  This isn’t a matter of perspectives, it’s a matter of consequences. Consequences which are already happening. Women are dying from abortion laws. Trans individuals are dying due to anti trans laws. The data is out there proving it.
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- consteval 2y ago
  In line with the other reply, it's simply a matter of cause and effect. If you are unable to come to terms with cause and effect, then you are the closed minded one. For example, if you remove low-cost PrEP more homosexuals WILL get HIV. WILL. Not might. Not may. WILL. It is really that simple. Okay, so therefore if you have policy, which many conservatives do, that insurance should not be mandated to provide affordable PrEP than you MUST support more homosexuals getting HIV. The problem here is people are cowards and weasels. They support things, knowing full well of the consequences of it, and then will proclaim they don't support the consequences. That's impossible, it doesn't work that way. That's true closed-mindedness. If I support adding bottomless pits all over the road, then I support some drivers diving in them. That's how the world works, cause and effect, and even small children learn this quickly. It's only when the adults start to weasel that there's room for "debate". I would have much more tolerance for conservative opinions if they would just outright say they want more homosexuals to get HIV, as a punishment. Or say they want more women to die. But they don't, because they're cowards before conservatives. I cannot respect a coward.
- polotics 2y ago
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  - dang 2y ago
    Please don't post flamewar comments to HN, no matter how wrong someone is or you feel they are. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

tervical 2y ago

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falcolas 2y ago
This isn’t a matter of perspectives, it’s a matter of consequences. Consequences which are already happening. Women are dying from abortion laws. Trans individuals are dying due to anti trans laws. The data is out there proving it.
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consteval 2y ago
In line with the other reply, it's simply a matter of cause and effect. If you are unable to come to terms with cause and effect, then you are the closed minded one. For example, if you remove low-cost PrEP more homosexuals WILL get HIV. WILL. Not might. Not may. WILL. It is really that simple. Okay, so therefore if you have policy, which many conservatives do, that insurance should not be mandated to provide affordable PrEP than you MUST support more homosexuals getting HIV. The problem here is people are cowards and weasels. They support things, knowing full well of the consequences of it, and then will proclaim they don't support the consequences. That's impossible, it doesn't work that way. That's true closed-mindedness. If I support adding bottomless pits all over the road, then I support some drivers diving in them. That's how the world works, cause and effect, and even small children learn this quickly. It's only when the adults start to weasel that there's room for "debate". I would have much more tolerance for conservative opinions if they would just outright say they want more homosexuals to get HIV, as a punishment. Or say they want more women to die. But they don't, because they're cowards before conservatives. I cannot respect a coward.
polotics 2y ago
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- dang 2y ago
  Please don't post flamewar comments to HN, no matter how wrong someone is or you feel they are. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html