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Curious, because I understand the benefit of removing all of them (one less thing to maintain across all the platforms they support). Which certainly makes sens

Curious, because I understand the benefit of removing all of them (one less thing to maintain across all the platforms they support). Which certainly makes sense if they were not popular. But what is the benefit of removing some, but not removing all? You still need to keep the code and the complexity around until all can be removed. What do they win by removing the ones they remove but not all?

mrits 2y ago
I have no idea but I suppose some could provide value even without interaction
shermantanktop 2y ago
Media is not like software. Software can be kept going with some maintenance investment. If you built it, you can keep it running for as long as you like. A movie or tv show, on the other hand, is a complex web of rights and contracts. The initial launch aligns everyone’s interests, but releasing it in new countries or on new media types requires business and legal discussion. If it’s worth it, it’ll happen. Each one of those agreements is also time-limited, and so if you do nothing you can still end up with a title that is too much trouble to keep around. (All the above is speculative wrt these titles in particular. But go look at Moonlighting as a tv show that was blocked for many years due to this)
- maxwell 2y ago
  Funny that the technical reality is the inverse, i.e. media is read-only and storage/playback is now trivial beyond availability, software is executable and requires a degree of active maintenance.
  - adolph 2y ago
    > storage/playback is now trivial Both storage (and retrieval) and playback are based on software. Basically, the recording is in an obscure video format. People at the NSA can’t easily watch it, so they can’t redact it. So they won’t do anything. [0] 0. https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2024/07/the-nsa-has-a-long-lost-lecture-by-adm-grace-hopper.html https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2024/07/the-nsa-has-a... 1. https://www.lockss.org/ https://www.lockss.org/
- tialaramex 2y ago
  > If it’s worth it, it’ll happen. Nope. That would require both rationality (extremely unlikely) and perfect information (impossible) The reality is that it's somewhat more likely to happen if everybody involved thinks it's a good idea, and one reason (but only one) they might think that is because they believe "it's worth it" whatever their understanding of that is. But never certain, and equally, never impossible. Messy.
  - shermantanktop 2y ago
    Sure, this is the real world of humans after all. Or more precisely, it is the fake real world of Hollywood humans. That said, having actual money on the line does have a way of clarifying people's thinking...sometimes.
spywaregorilla 2y ago
You assume they all shared the same tech stack
- krisoft 2y ago
  That is a very good point! Indeed if they are using different tech / code paths that would explain why they get sunset at different times.
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0x457 2y ago
Well, if they used content not owned by Netflix, which they for sure did, some of it could have been licensed as "per-stream" or something similar; tl;dr; It's probably costing them more when people stream those titles, then those titles generate.

mrits 2y ago

I have no idea but I suppose some could provide value even without interaction

shermantanktop 2y ago

Media is not like software. Software can be kept going with some maintenance investment. If you built it, you can keep it running for as long as you like. A movie or tv show, on the other hand, is a complex web of rights and contracts. The initial launch aligns everyone’s interests, but releasing it in new countries or on new media types requires business and legal discussion. If it’s worth it, it’ll happen. Each one of those agreements is also time-limited, and so if you do nothing you can still end up with a title that is too much trouble to keep around. (All the above is speculative wrt these titles in particular. But go look at Moonlighting as a tv show that was blocked for many years due to this)

maxwell 2y ago
Funny that the technical reality is the inverse, i.e. media is read-only and storage/playback is now trivial beyond availability, software is executable and requires a degree of active maintenance.
- adolph 2y ago
  > storage/playback is now trivial Both storage (and retrieval) and playback are based on software. Basically, the recording is in an obscure video format. People at the NSA can’t easily watch it, so they can’t redact it. So they won’t do anything. [0] 0. https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2024/07/the-nsa-has-a-long-lost-lecture-by-adm-grace-hopper.html https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2024/07/the-nsa-has-a... 1. https://www.lockss.org/ https://www.lockss.org/
tialaramex 2y ago
> If it’s worth it, it’ll happen. Nope. That would require both rationality (extremely unlikely) and perfect information (impossible) The reality is that it's somewhat more likely to happen if everybody involved thinks it's a good idea, and one reason (but only one) they might think that is because they believe "it's worth it" whatever their understanding of that is. But never certain, and equally, never impossible. Messy.
- shermantanktop 2y ago
  Sure, this is the real world of humans after all. Or more precisely, it is the fake real world of Hollywood humans. That said, having actual money on the line does have a way of clarifying people's thinking...sometimes.

spywaregorilla 2y ago

You assume they all shared the same tech stack

krisoft 2y ago
That is a very good point! Indeed if they are using different tech / code paths that would explain why they get sunset at different times.

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0x457 2y ago

Well, if they used content not owned by Netflix, which they for sure did, some of it could have been licensed as "per-stream" or something similar; tl;dr; It's probably costing them more when people stream those titles, then those titles generate.