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Oh this is genuinely fascinating. I literally had no idea so much went into the dithering, my presumption was there was just an off the shelf posterization fil

by donatj 2y ago

Oh this is genuinely fascinating. I literally had no idea so much went into the dithering, my presumption was there was just an off the shelf posterization filter applied. The end result looks fantastic and managed to give me wild nostalgia for playing games like The Manhole on my friends Macintosh Classic as a kid. One of my favorite games ever, my wife and I played through it together. I feel like there's not a lot of games you can play with another person these days and playing it like that was a wonderful experience. I would highly recommend playing it with another person if you have the chance.

jdalt 2y ago
I had the same experience playing it with my wife. The shared puzzle solving lead to some very late nights. My favorite game of the last 10 years.
coldpie 2y ago
There's loads of puzzle games that are great for this! Off the top of my head, check out Lorelei and the Laser eyes, the recent Monkey Island, Case of the Golden Monkey, the two Talos Principle games, maybe The Witness?
- InsideOutSanta 2y ago
  Case of the Golden Monkey sounds fascinating, but almost too secretive. It's an Idol, not a Monkey :-) Excellent list! I'd also add The Crimson Diamond to it.
  - coldpie 2y ago
    Hah. Well, at least I didn't write Curse...
- jsheard 2y ago
  The Outer Wilds (not The Outer Worlds) is also a fantastic game along those lines. Don't read too much about it, you want to go in as blind as possible.
  - 0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago
    I am not sure how well a non gamer would take it. I recall some tricky platforming or timing sections which would be too much. As a matter of fact, I recall I had to cheat to lookup the solution to a puzzle or two, only to discover I had the right idea, but was executing it too poorly to work.
    - jsheard 2y ago
      FWIW they did go back and refine some of the puzzles after launch, so depending on when you played it might be smoother now.
- grraaaaahhh 2y ago
  I'd add Chants of Sennaar to this list. It's similar to Case of the Golden Idol/Obra Dinn in that the entire game is about making deductions about the game world, but in this case it's about decoding fantasy languages.
teamonkey 2y ago
> I feel like there's not a lot of games you can play with another person these days and playing it like that was a wonderful experience. May I suggest Her Story / Telling Lies / Immortality ?
ronjouch 2y ago
> I feel like there's not a lot of games you can play with another person these days and playing it like that was a wonderful experience. I would highly recommend playing it with another person if you have the chance. Absolutely. Shameless self-plug to my list of games for "non-gamers" that I find enjoyable with a friend or significant other: https://ronan.jouchet.fr/games?list=nongamer https://ronan.jouchet.fr/games?list=nongamer . The first of the list is ...... Return of the Obra Dinn ^^.
- AndrewStephens 2y ago
  What a great list, thanks for sharing.
- jonesetc 2y ago
  A lot of great stuff on there. Random game from last year that feels like it would fit well is Chants of Sennaar. Played though it with my non-gaming partner and we had a blast.
  - ronjouch 2y ago
    Thanks! Sennaar didn't gel with me, because language-based deduction imply an "arbitrariness" ("wobbliness"?) and mis-interpretations. To me, this felt frustrating compared to the sharpness of an Obra Dinn deduction. But for others it might be part of the appeal, and at any rate it's undeniably a polished game, so I understand that a lot people enjoy it :) Regarding other similar recommendations I see in-thread and that are not already in the list: - The Outer Wilds: one of my fav games ever (it's at the top of my "absolute best" list), but too 3d-mechanically-demanding for a very-non-gamer. - The Witness: same, thus for this "non-gamers" list I preferred recommending its excellent 2D little-brother, Taiji :) - Case of the Golden Idol: yeah it's a clear "play that too if you liked Obra Dinn", added as Obra Dinn addendum - Lorelei and the Laser eyes: haven't played it yet, will soon!
    - JoshTriplett 2y ago
      > Sennaar didn't gel with me, because language-based deduction imply an "arbitrariness" ("wobbliness"?) and mis-interpretations. I definitely found the misinterpretations entertaining. It seems like they went to some amount of effort to anticipate potential misinterpretations, such that discovering those misinterpretations later would lead to amusement.
NikolaNovak 2y ago
Such games are a treasure. My wife and I enjoyed Firewatch and Take of two brothers, as well as all the amanita design games like that. One person has the controls but two people are actively engaged :-). Any tips for others?
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jdalt 2y ago

I had the same experience playing it with my wife. The shared puzzle solving lead to some very late nights. My favorite game of the last 10 years.

coldpie 2y ago

There's loads of puzzle games that are great for this! Off the top of my head, check out Lorelei and the Laser eyes, the recent Monkey Island, Case of the Golden Monkey, the two Talos Principle games, maybe The Witness?

InsideOutSanta 2y ago
Case of the Golden Monkey sounds fascinating, but almost too secretive. It's an Idol, not a Monkey :-) Excellent list! I'd also add The Crimson Diamond to it.
- coldpie 2y ago
  Hah. Well, at least I didn't write Curse...
jsheard 2y ago
The Outer Wilds (not The Outer Worlds) is also a fantastic game along those lines. Don't read too much about it, you want to go in as blind as possible.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago
  I am not sure how well a non gamer would take it. I recall some tricky platforming or timing sections which would be too much. As a matter of fact, I recall I had to cheat to lookup the solution to a puzzle or two, only to discover I had the right idea, but was executing it too poorly to work.
  - jsheard 2y ago
    FWIW they did go back and refine some of the puzzles after launch, so depending on when you played it might be smoother now.
grraaaaahhh 2y ago
I'd add Chants of Sennaar to this list. It's similar to Case of the Golden Idol/Obra Dinn in that the entire game is about making deductions about the game world, but in this case it's about decoding fantasy languages.

teamonkey 2y ago

> I feel like there's not a lot of games you can play with another person these days and playing it like that was a wonderful experience. May I suggest Her Story / Telling Lies / Immortality ?

ronjouch 2y ago

> I feel like there's not a lot of games you can play with another person these days and playing it like that was a wonderful experience. I would highly recommend playing it with another person if you have the chance. Absolutely. Shameless self-plug to my list of games for "non-gamers" that I find enjoyable with a friend or significant other: https://ronan.jouchet.fr/games?list=nongamer https://ronan.jouchet.fr/games?list=nongamer . The first of the list is ...... Return of the Obra Dinn ^^.

AndrewStephens 2y ago
What a great list, thanks for sharing.
jonesetc 2y ago
A lot of great stuff on there. Random game from last year that feels like it would fit well is Chants of Sennaar. Played though it with my non-gaming partner and we had a blast.
- ronjouch 2y ago
  Thanks! Sennaar didn't gel with me, because language-based deduction imply an "arbitrariness" ("wobbliness"?) and mis-interpretations. To me, this felt frustrating compared to the sharpness of an Obra Dinn deduction. But for others it might be part of the appeal, and at any rate it's undeniably a polished game, so I understand that a lot people enjoy it :) Regarding other similar recommendations I see in-thread and that are not already in the list: - The Outer Wilds: one of my fav games ever (it's at the top of my "absolute best" list), but too 3d-mechanically-demanding for a very-non-gamer. - The Witness: same, thus for this "non-gamers" list I preferred recommending its excellent 2D little-brother, Taiji :) - Case of the Golden Idol: yeah it's a clear "play that too if you liked Obra Dinn", added as Obra Dinn addendum - Lorelei and the Laser eyes: haven't played it yet, will soon!
  - JoshTriplett 2y ago
    > Sennaar didn't gel with me, because language-based deduction imply an "arbitrariness" ("wobbliness"?) and mis-interpretations. I definitely found the misinterpretations entertaining. It seems like they went to some amount of effort to anticipate potential misinterpretations, such that discovering those misinterpretations later would lead to amusement.

NikolaNovak 2y ago

Such games are a treasure. My wife and I enjoyed Firewatch and Take of two brothers, as well as all the amanita design games like that. One person has the controls but two people are actively engaged :-). Any tips for others?

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